Bruce Weber: Candy man can

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CHAMPAIGN – With long, determined strides, Mike Tisdale makes a direct path to the desk in Bruce Weber's office. There, he raids the bowl of candy that seems bottomless.

"He's still the candy man," Tisdale says.

The same is true in film sessions at the Ubben Basketball Complex. When the head coach arrives, so do the Sweet Tarts and Blow Pops. He picks at the film – "Why didn't you block out?!" – as players pick out red Skittles.

Constructive criticism, apparently, goes down easier with candy corn. Bringing sweets to team functions is an old habit of Weber's, dating to when he would fetch bags of Jolly Rancher suckers for his players at SIU.

"He has a secret stash in his office," says Tisdale, a fourth-year veteran. "I found it."

"I spent $100 on Halloween candy after Halloween," Weber adds. "It was half price."

Through seven seasons on the Illinois sideline, so much about Weber hasn't changed. He's still the candy man. He still hosts team dinners where players – Meyers Leonard, these days – beat him in ping-pong. He's still prone to unusual injuries, evidenced by the splint that protects a torn tendon in his finger.

"I did it while making the bed," he says.

He still clips coupons and carries them in his wallet.

"I used to do it a lot more," he says. "My goal would be to have them give me money back."

That's right – the coach whose contract is worth $1.5 million annually still uses coupons in the checkout line at County Market.

Other things have changed, and Illinois hopes it's for the better. The past four seasons on the court brought as many lows as highs, especially compared to the historic run that preceded them.

Those were seasons defined more by their trials – from car accidents to recruitments that ended like one – than their games. And since Dee Brown's exit after the 2005-06 season, Illinois has been the definition of Big Ten mediocrity: 35-35 in conference games.

Those four seasons included anything and everything a coach could encounter, and they've brought Weber to a light at the end of the tunnel.

"It's a bright light. A really bright light. And I think it's great when you can weather those storms," Michigan State coach Tom Izzo says. "Now he's kind of built it again from scratch. Only this time, that foundation is so solid. This time he's going to be a force to be reckoned with."

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At Illinois, the future appears as sweet as the candy bowl on Weber's desk.

On Monday against UC Irvine, the 13th-ranked Illini will open a season in the AP Top 25 for the second time since 2006. The starting lineup will include four seniors who have played in a combined 379 games. A third consecutive nationally rated recruiting class will sign letters of intent Wednesday.

"I'm ready to get down here right now," says Chicago Mount Carmel guard Tracy Abrams, one of four prep seniors committed to Illinois.

"We've got people buzzing again," says senior Mike Davis. "But we've got to live up to peoples' expectations."

Just as important, there's a confidence around the basketball offices that hasn't been there over the past four seasons.

At the urging of the seniors, players spent their off day Wednesday watching film of the final exhibition game. When freshmen Crandall Head and Jereme Richmond arrived for practice Thursday, their first stop was Weber's office, to say hello to the coach. The other freshman, Meyers Leonard, recently thumped Weber in a game of ping-pong at the coach's home.

"I watched him play Meyers," senior Bill Cole says. "It was a pretty heated battle."

"It wasn't really a contest," Leonard boasts.

A pair of sloppy exhibition games took some of the shine off the season's start. The 10- and nine-point wins against Lewis and Southern Indiana also showed you can put all kinds of talent on the floor, but that won't equate to success.

"We haven't won anything yet," Davis says.

Still, Weber is cautiously optimistic about a team – and a future – he says can be "special."

"I haven't seen him this excited before," Tisdale says. "He talks about how he's excited but says, 'I don't want to get my hopes too high.' I think he's really excited and I think we are, too. Now we just have to win."

"Right now you don't feel like you can compete against a Division II (team). So that makes you realize (there's work to do)," Weber says. "But I think we've made some strides. We've had back-to-back recruiting classes. Now they have to prove they were worth the hype, especially the highly touted guys.

"It might take a little bit of time with Jereme and Meyers and Crandall. You can kind of see that. You have to get some continuity if you're going to be a national player. But coaches are always cautious. You don't want to get too overboard. When they prove it on the court and we keep advancing on the court, then you can celebrate recruiting."

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Jamar Smith is packing. The next day he will leave central Illinois to start his professional career with the Maine Red Claws of the NBA Development League.

"All I know is they told me to bring a coat," he says with a laugh.

That he can laugh – and play for pay – is a life victory.

Over the past four seasons there were three outstanding circumstances that dropped Illinois from the Big Ten elite. One was the car accident involving Smith. Another was the recruitment of Eric Gordon. Another was poor leadership, namely the flammable relationship between then-senior Shaun Pruitt and the coaching staff.

For Weber, the first was nearly devastating in a human sense. Smith remains one of his favorite players and personalities, and Smith's bout with alcoholism hit Weber in the heart. The second was devastating in a recruiting sense. The third was devastating in a locker-room sense.

But there was growth from all three. Illinois altered its recruiting approach after Gordon, and its recruiting exploded soon after. The current seniors were there when toxic team chemistry led to 19 losses in 2007-08, and they've made an extra effort to prevent class division this season.

Finally, two years after Weber was forced to dismiss Smith from the Illinois program, the 23-year-old gives much of the credit for his lifestyle turnaround to his former coaches.

"There was a point where I was so disappointed in myself. You don't realize what you've got till it's gone," Smith says. "Everyone in Peoria would like to be playing at Illinois. That's what I grew up dreaming about. Having that taken away from me, it was a real dark time in my life. I really thought about not playing anymore.

"But Coach Weber, he told me to keep playing basketball. He said basketball is what keeps you cool. I don't know if I'd still be playing without him. Sometimes I'll be just watching college basketball and I'll say to myself I wouldn't still be playing if not for Coach Weber. That's how much he means to me."

Weber says, "He's really grown up. He's a once-in-a-lifetime person."

Weber says he'd change only one thing about how he handled Smith's case.

"The only thing I wish is that I would have known more about him and his illness, how strong it was. It wasn't just a college kid going out and having fun. He had a disease. He had an illness. I learned about it, but maybe not before it was too late to maybe do something about it.

"If he has success in life, I'll feel good about it. He'll text me in the middle of the night and say, 'Thank you.' Those are the things that make you feel pretty good."

And the Gordon drama – what would he change there?

"With E.J., I don't know what else you could have done. We recruited him young. You had him committed," Weber says. "I always felt like I ended up being a victim. All I did was say that I don't think it's right when you recruit someone that's committed. I still feel that way. Yet somehow the national media made that a negative toward me.

"I guess maybe you just don't say anything. I don't feel bad about it. You do what you have to do and you don't look back."

As sweet as the Illini's future appears, those cases are a reminder it can all change in a moment's notice.

"It was a tough time. At the same time life is not always easy," Weber says. "We had a magical run. I wouldn't trade the magical run for anything. We had no injuries, the Final Four. Except for a couple possessions it was magical. You've got to take the good with the bad.

"Maybe overall it helped us. We ended up with Coach (Jerrance) Howard on the staff. Maybe it will work out. Right now our season is testing your patience and we haven't even lost a game yet. That's a part of coaching. Basketball's very humbling."

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The nervous reaction that followed two exhibition games also showed this Illinois team will play under a microscope. Every coaching decision, every loss, every narrow win will be analyzed and overanalyzed, even.

That happens when you miss the NCAA tournament twice in three years. By March it will be five years since Illinois won a tournament game, the longest drought in 30 years.

So, yes, there's pressure on these Illini. They haven't won enough. And Weber feels it.

"Obviously when everything doesn't go perfect it's not easy going to the grocery store, because of your position," he said. "(Retired referee) Jim Bain asked me, 'Do you go to a restaurant after games?' He said, 'Not even after wins?' I said no. After wins I want to have some relaxation. After losses I don't want to see anyone.

"Then I said, 'That's just what we deal with.' I get a pizza or some carryout food and go home and relax and maybe watch the game or whatever."

Weber's critics have done a turnabout, too. In previous years the catcallers said he could coach but couldn't recruit.

"Somebody asked (Purdue coach) Matt Painter about recruiting. They used to ask me that. Now they want to know if I can coach," Weber says. "Matt's won the Big Ten and took a program that's not doing very well (and) now they're worried about recruiting. You can't keep people satisfied. You've just got to do your job the best you can and try to at least enjoy life a little bit."

Weber says he doesn't worry about the message-board critics and talking heads who question his ability. Assistant coaches and the sports information staff will pass along what is written or said, if they feel he should see it.

"People overall are pretty good. I think the worst people are the Internet people that have no face to an opinion. Or the call-in radio guys that have a voice and no face," he says. "So they can say whatever they want. I'll be honest, I don't pay attention to any of that."

He adds, "They'd probably be right next to you and never say anything to you and ask for your autograph."

The low points over the past four seasons tested everyone's patience, including Weber's. During a game at Mackey Arena, for example, he yelled back at a Purdue fan who taunted the former Purdue assistant as he left the court.

If anything, though, the valleys seemed to make Weber more determined to return Illinois to its previous standing as a Big Ten contender.

Take the recruitment of Chicago forward Mike Shaw, for example. Though Illinois had his commitment all but locked up, Weber tripped to De La Salle the day before Shaw's announcement to make certain nothing changed his mind.

"He didn't have to be here," De La Salle coach Tom White says. "But he was."

It's not all seashells and sunshine, however. Weber's sideline histrionics got out of control last season. There are too many player-coach spats, some of them caught by ESPN cameras, and this roster is more combustible. Illinois missed on a recruit it probably should have landed, Rock Island senior Chasson Randle, whose family members are lifelong Illini fans.

Still, there's a feeling Weber has "weathered the storm," as Izzo put it.

And the future appears sweet.

"Has it always gone like you would have wanted? No," Weber says. "Do we feel positive about where we're going? Yes, we've made strides recruiting, our guys have worked at it. You've got a nice mix with seniors and some talented younger guys.

"But until you prove it on the court it doesn't mean anything."

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edhedh wrote on November 07, 2010 at 10:11 am

klee,

excellent article. illini fans need to understand that we are trying to work 7 underclassmen into the system. there will be some bumps down the road but they will get it together. have some patience. i agree with coach weber about many of the nameless bloggers. if you have such wonderful insights, why not put your name out there? then everybody that agrees with you can pat you on the back. or not.

ed horton

chuckles wrote on November 07, 2010 at 10:11 am

Paul, help an illini basketball fan out here? Why are most locally and nationally so optimistic when weber is not in the top 25 coaches power ranking and richmond is not in the freshman top 25 on rivals.com? This suggests that this year will be more like last year?

RPeterE wrote on November 07, 2010 at 3:11 pm

Bruce Weber is no more a top 25 coach then Tisdale, Davis, Cole and McCamey are all-american players. Outside of a few new freshmen players this is the same team that lost to Utah, Bradley, Georgia and Dayton last season. Seeing as Bruce is going to stick with his seniors instead of go to his more talented and higher rated freshmen and sophomores, means Illinois will be lucky to even get into the tournament again. Fire Weber now so Illinois can have a good coach to lead the recruiting classes Howard brought in.

ElDuderino wrote on November 07, 2010 at 6:11 pm

Coach Weber is a class act, he's down to earth, and runs a clean program. We've seen what he can do with talent. Let's hope this year is special.

Milnutz wrote on November 07, 2010 at 7:11 pm

RPeterE,

You have quite an eye for talent!! Have you ever thought about going into coaching? I check the site everyday hoping to catch some more of your intellectual basketball nuggets.

Thanks for the humor. Give me a break.

afan wrote on November 07, 2010 at 7:11 pm

I think most fans will be happy if Illinois can just manage to beat UC Irvine Monday. I know that's how I feel. Just get the win, and get better, you can worry about beating the next team when this game is over.

CentralIlliniFan wrote on November 07, 2010 at 9:11 pm

ust because Weber keeps candy in his drawer, clips coupons and likes Jamar Smith does not mean fans should be satisfied with the progress of the basketball program during his tenure. The fact that he has had to rebuild a program that was near elite status when he took it over, speaks volumes as to his effectiveness.

Wenalway wrote on November 07, 2010 at 9:11 pm

I am happy. Not much longer until the Illini win convincingly at home against a weak opponent, and then we get to read the annual article about how great the season will be.

After that, it's all downhill -- lots of strange losses; crazy people calling post-game shows with nonsensical advice; an early departure from the conference tournament; and finally, another loss to an 11 or 12 seed in the first round of the tournament.

ax474 wrote on November 07, 2010 at 10:11 pm

Klee,

Your comment about Chasson Randle is totally irrelevant. Duke missed on Harrison Barnes. Does that mean Coach K should scrutinized? Yes, Webers win/loss record for the past four seasons is suspect, but let's leave the recruiting misses out of it. Your article didn't mention the thousands of dollars Weber has raised for Coaches vs. Cancer.

chuckles wrote on November 07, 2010 at 11:11 pm

I dont think coaches vs cancer donations was used in the yop 25 ranking criteria. But I do like Beef House Rolls

PeoriaIllini wrote on November 08, 2010 at 8:11 am

I like Weber, and like where the program is going. I think anyone who says you should play inexperienced players just because they were hyped is not thinking clearly. The season will go fine, will we lose to teams we could have beat? Yes. Will we beat teams that we didnt expect to beat? Yes. That is how seasons go. As long as we show progress and make any sort of run in the tourney I would be happy.

Zentrails wrote on November 08, 2010 at 10:11 am

A millionaire who buys half price candy. LOL

A least we don't have a stuck up coach.

OrangeJam wrote on November 08, 2010 at 12:11 pm

It amazes me how some people place the blame for the past few year's solely upon Bruce Weber. It is obvious to most that the majority of the problems the ILLINI have had were due to a drop in talent on the roster

-- RECRUITING ISSUES --

1. Illinois was an unstable program when Weber accepted the job. He was the 4th head coach in 7 years. Recruits don't want to go to a program unless they think the same coach will be there all 4 years.

2.In his 2nd season at Illinois, Weber coached the ILLINI to the best season in Illinois history, which did not help the stability of the program. Recruits thought there was a possibility Weber would leave for other opportunities due to his instant success.

3. Weber came from SIU, and was not recruiting the same caliber players as he had previously, so he didn't have relationships in place with some high level talent. Also, CPL coaches weren't happy about a non-Chicago head coach being hired at Illinois. So obviously it was going to take Weber some time to build relationships with recruits and hs coaches.

4. Eric Gordon and his family were not decent human beings. It doesn't matter if they approached Sampson, or the reverse. They handled EJ's recruitment in an extremely shady manner. Given that Sampson was later busted for recruiting violations, it's safe to assume that more was going on at IU than just hiring several friends of the Gordon family and a last minute change of heart. There was just no way to prepare a back-up plan as it would have given the Gordon's an excuse.

5. Quinton Watkins did not qualify

-- NON-RECRUITING ISSUES --

1. The Jamar Smith incident did a lot of damage to the program 2007. The auto accident not only took out a solid player in Smith, but took out a player with a bright future in Carlwell (who later transferred). The accident occurred at a critical point in the season when it was difficult for the team to adjust, and also was a distraction for the team, especially on the road.

2. In late July of 2008, the Jamar Smith incident came back and damaged the program again. Jamar violated his probation, and Weber had no choice but to dismiss him. Had he originally dismissed Jamar after the accident, Weber might have been able to secure another decent player. I am personally glad Weber gave Jamar a 2nd chance, as it shows recruits that he cares about his players.

3. Injuries plagued multiple players on the Illini for a couple of years. Richard Semrau with a life threatening injury, as well as Chester Frazier constantly being injured, yet somehow finding a way to play. That is until his hand injury right before the tournament. Every team has injuries, but unless you have serious depth on the bench, you can't knock out the team leader right before the tournament and expect to do well. During that time period, I remember Weber saying he didn't have enough players to put together practice scrimmages at a couple of points (due to illness/injuries). Remember folks, we had walk ons playing significant minutes for a couple of years. So it wasn't as if everybody was healthy and things were going well behind the scenes for the ILLINI.

4. There is no team out there that can always get every recruit they want. However, the past 7 years there have been a lot of recruitments that have been extremely shady. Players committing to schools without even visiting their campus, a high school coach daring the media to show him a cancelled check, allegations by newspapers that players were getting paid, etc. We know Weber isn't going to knowingly break recruiting rules, so it has taken time for him to develop a system that works.

These are just a few major things that impacted our program, and Weber couldn't control almost any of it. Weber now has the talent coming to Illinois. We can't expect them to walk into the door and be seasoned players from day one. It takes time to adjust to the college game, and we can't base our opinion of the team on a couple of exhibition games where Weber is experimenting with the lineups. Plus, we need to keep in mind that the Illini hadn't even practiced offense as of yet.

We may not gel as fast as we want this season, but come January I have no doubt that we will be firing upon all cylinders. We know Weber can coach talent, it just takes time. Remember 2004-05, or does Weber not get any credit at all for that season because they were Bill Self's recruits ,and they would have tied the NCAA record for most wins in a season without Weber? I don't think so. Give the man a little time this season and you will once again cheer his name.

CentralIlliniFan wrote on November 08, 2010 at 1:11 pm

OrangeJam, Illinois was an unstable program?? Really?? Recruits did not want to come to the program?? Again, really?? Does the name Charlie Villanueva ring a bell? Do you remember when Illinois and Michigan State dominated the Big 10 a mere six years ago? Purdue, Ohio State and Wisconsin have all risen while Illinois dropped by the wayside during those six years. How long has Weber been the coach? It seems you and others are more interested in providing excuses for Weber than the success of the program.

illiniba wrote on November 08, 2010 at 4:11 pm

"while Illinois dropped by the wayside during those six years"

since 2004-05 - Illinois has finished 2nd (tied), 4th (tied), 9th (tied), 2nd (tied) and 5th in the Big 10(11)

think you're being a bit of a Drama Queen there CIF....

CentralIlliniFan wrote on November 08, 2010 at 6:11 pm

"since 2004-05 - Illinois has finished 2nd (tied), 4th (tied), 9th (tied), 2nd (tied) and 5th in the Big 10(11)

think you're being a bit of a Drama Queen there CIF...."

And in the 5 years preceding 2004-05 - Illinois finished 4th, 1st (tied), 1st (tied), 2nd and 1st in the Big 10. No drama here.

OrangeJam wrote on November 08, 2010 at 7:11 pm

@CentralIlliniFan

Charlie Vilanueva was Bill Self recruit, not Bruce Weber's. Notice how he didn't come to Illinois after a coaching change?!? Do you honestly think Illinois could just keep changing coaches every couple of years with it not affecting recruiting at all?!?! Really?!? REALLY?!?!? REAAAAAALLYYY?!?!?

You obviously didn't read my post because you are acting as if nothing happened to the program in the past several years. It's really easy to IGNORE FACTS and pick a scapegoat in Bruce Weber. If the same things happened to any other coach out there, they would have struggled, and I don't even think they would have even faired as well as Bruce Weber --assuming they did things in an ethical manner. It's easy to cheat, it's a much harder to encounter great adversity and be a champion.

Sure we had a great run, and remember, Bruce Weber took us the furthest. Pretty weak argument to point to how great things were in the past and ignore everything that happened. But that's to be expected, as some people like to troll.

CentralIlliniFan wrote on November 08, 2010 at 8:11 pm

OrangeJam, so you are saying Self could recruit Villanueva inspite of the coaching changes but Weber was not able to be a sucessful recruiter because of the numerous coaching changes? You just made the point that Weber could not recruit when he got here. Is there no end to the excuses? Bad things happen to all coaches. Some coaches overcome those bad things and others use them as excuses.

Lanphier wrote on February 24, 2011 at 8:02 am

Now it's Feb. 24,2011 ....How do those words taste Orange Jam?

Still not Webers fault? REALLY REALLY REALLLLYY?