Tate: Rice would look good in orange and blue
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CHAMPAIGN – Sleep didn't come easy Friday night.
I had just witnessed something special, something that caused my brain to spin even when my eyes were closed, something that confirmed what I thought I already knew.
Over the years I've come across local greatness. I sat spellbound while the late John Cribbet delivered a luncheon address. I've seen Sonny Norman with his hands on a country guitar. I've faced Corky Waters' changeup, and I was mesmerized by Gerald Hutchcraft's catcher's mitt. I've seen Bonnie Blair don her skates, and a young Alison Krauss massage a fiddle at Nature's Table. I've seen Chief Illiniwek dance. And, oh, yes, I couldn't get enough of George Will's political commentary at the old Friday Forum.
Even though all the aforementioned have left our premises, they are deeply entrenched. And now I have a new best-ever memory. I've seen a high schooler named Rayvonte Rice in the open court or blasting along the baseline with a basketball in his hands.
Rice was at it again Friday night at Combes Gym.
Having produced 45 points in Centennial's previous 91-78 defeat of Central, he was a marked man. The Maroons used a box-and-one with coach Scott Davis screaming "Double team! Double, double!" every time Rice touched the ball. He was severely limited, producing 18 points (seven under his 25-point average) as the Chargers prevailed 57-54.
A perfect fit
Most young preps overrate themselves. But in this case, Centennial's 6-foot-3 blockbuster has undersold himself in signing with Drake University over a Big Ten school like, say ... Illinois. Maybe it made sense for Unity's Brian Cardinal to attend Purdue (Lou Henson had Ryan Blackwell for his spot), and maybe Central's Verdell Jones III was too slight and turnover-prone at the time. But here we are again, about to lose our latest jewel to a school in, ugh, Iowa. Congratulations go to Drake coach Mark Phelps. While others were wondering what position Rice might play – he's been called a "tweener" – Phelps landed the real deal. Rice plays his own position. It's called "winner."
He was the clutch part of Centennial's state champs a year ago, sparking an incredible win streak that reached 37 before Peoria Richwoods snapped it recently. The Chargers' Big 12 run is still alive at 23.
Don't ask me how he does it. I don't know how Charles Barkley kept from getting his shot blocked among the tall trees in the NBA. It's a mystery. Magicians always fascinate me, and I don't know their secrets.
It's been done before
Could Rice do the same thing in the Big Ten? Is he Sergio McClain with touch? I can't be positive but, if it was me, if I had that talent, I'd find out. I recognize that he is signed, but I also know that "decommitting" is routine these days.
Recruiting guru Randy Taylor said nine football players recently decommitted from Tim Brewster at Minnesota. Teenagers change their mind. Alex Legion signed with Michigan and changed to Kentucky when coach Tommy Amaker was fired. Indiana had Devin Ebanks signed and sealed, but he asked out and went to West Virginia. Texas star Damion James and Villanova's Scottie Reynolds were set for Oklahoma but were allowed to switch without penalty. Citing extenuating family circumstances, Iowa stars Tyler Smith and Jake Kelly joined the teams at Tennessee and Indiana State, respectively, without sitting out.
If the NCAA will grant Kelly and Smith eligibility waivers "to be closer to home," it is obvious how the NCAA would handle Rice if he cited the preference to stay close to his mother and strongest supporter, Rhonda Rice. There's no bigger cinch than a good lawyer with "family" justification.
UI coach Bruce Weber is obliged to stay clear of this matter. Any contact on his part might be considered tampering. And maybe Weber doesn't think Rice is a fit. But this much we know. If Weber is short of ball handlers, Rice is Andy Kaufmann without the traveling calls. If Weber wants toughness, Rice comes straight from the football field. If Weber places importance on competing, Rice is your guy. Like the halfback he could have been –- I originally thought football was his best sport – he can go wherever he wants on the court because of his possessive dribble, which is something Illini freshmen haven't learned yet.
Proving his point
Back in December, Rice squared off against the top UI recruit of the Weber era, Waukegan's Jereme Richmond. It was a 71-54 blowout. Rice ruled the game and racked 32. And Rice is rounding out his senior year without the multiple on- and off-court problems that Richmond has encountered (he was suspended for fighting last weekend). Regardless of national rankings, Rice deserves the ranking as the state's best player in his senior class.
Again, and you can call me irrational, I wouldn't need assurance from Weber. He'd have to beat me off with a club. If you show your stuff, the way Zach Becker has shown Ron Zook, the coach will put you in the game. The world is full of against-the-grain battlers, often called walk-ons, who earned their stripes, dating back a million years to a time when Bill Garrett became the Big Ten's first black basketball star by forcing himself on reluctant Indiana coach Branch McCracken. Hoosier historians claim further that Bob Knight was unimpressed by what he saw of Calbert Cheaney at Evansville Harrison but was influenced to relent, and Cheaney became the Big Ten's all-time scoring leader.
If you are good enough and want something bad enough, maybe you can't stop the earth from spinning, but you can slow it down ... just enough. You tell me, would you prefer crowds in the 4,000 to 6,000 range in a Missouri Valley outpost or a packed house of 16,000 and full TV coverage in your home- town?
Rice in the Assembly Hall would, for me, be comparable to Tony Clements unraveling a funny story, or Lou and Mary Henson working the crowded streets on a summer night from Ko-Fusion to the Cowboy Monkey and around to the Esquire. You don't know how they do it, but you know special when you see it.
Loren Tate writes for The News-Gazette. He can be reached at ltate@news-gazette.com.
Mr. Tate, let me get this straight. The message you are sending to Rayvonte (and other young people) is that going back on your word is not only acceptable, but actually encouraged? OK, got it. Perhaps Illinois should have shown some interest in Rayvonte last fall.
"Over the years I've come across local greatness. I sat spellbound while the late John Cribbet delivered a luncheon address. I've seen Sonny Norman with his hands on a country guitar. I've faced Corky Waters' changeup, and I was mesmerized by Gerald Hutchcraft's catcher's mitt."
No one under 90 knows who these people are.
I am glad Loren wrote this article. I question this coaching staff's ability to recognize talent if they did not notice that Rice was the real deal last year. He has built upon that reputation this year. Maybe we need Dominque Keller to suggest Rice to Weber (just kidding...it would be a violation for Weber to get involved now. Not sure why he did not get involved earlier).
JRan - I know who these people are and I'm only 60. The world didn't start yesterday. If you never saw Corky, you missed something. Admittedly Loren is going into the past, but maybe that's his way of pointing out that real greatness isn't an everday occurrance. How long do you think we'll wait for the next Bonnie Blair?
wow Mr. Tate I am glad you finally gave this kid his just due! I could have swore that a month or 2 ago I heard you say that he just wouldnt fit into the big ten. Basically saying he wasnt good enough? now you change your mind. I am glad you changed your mind about the kid. I have been saying since last years state run for them that he should have been getting interest but everyone though I was crazy! I said it again when he went against richmond and won! I think Illinois lost out on another local kid, but I still think they will have a great class!
I can't speak to Mr. Rice's qualification as I have never seen him. However, if what Mr. Tate says is true, I believe it continues to show the problems with recruiting at UIUC in the major sports.
The news on Richmond does not sound good and I know several friends think he will be the Eric Gordon for the Illini but I question it.
In fairness to Weber there is a chance Rice may have wanted to get away from CU but it sounds like he may have never been offered the chance to stay. I assume we may never know.
Stop It Loren! You whine that Illinois doesn't have or get players necessary to compete for the Big Ten Championship for years to come and yet, you want Weber to bring in a kid recruited by the likes Drake, DePaul, Oregon State and Nevada? If Rayvonte Rice is that good, then wouldn't the likes of Michigan State, North Carolina and Duke come a callin'? I guess you know more about college basketball recruiting than Tom Izzo, Roy Williams, Bruce Weber, etc. . .sorry you missed your real calling in life, Coach Tate . . .
Sergio McClain was mentioned in this article. All Sergio did was win, win, win in high school. And he was a tweener, no quick enough to be a guard, and not tall enough or a good enough leaper to be a forward. He couldn't shoot well, either. He did a lot of things pretty well -- defense, passing, toughness, etc., but in the end it was guys like Frank Williams with a clear position who contributed more to Illini success.
If Rayvonte IS Sergio with a shot, then that's appealing. But a lot of scorers in high school get to college and can't get shots off, just as a lot of scorers in college get to the NBA and can't get their shots off...
If he's that good, why did *none* of the bigger schools go after him? VJ had Minnesota and Indiana going after him. This guy has Drake and a couple of other smaller schools.
Forget about doubting Weber's ability to recognize talent...according to Tate nearly the whole country didn't recognize someone putting up 25 pts/game. Is it possible? Sure. Likely? No.
OK, I think I understand now. It's perfectly acceptable to publically lobby for Rayvonte Rice to get an attorney, offer up some "wink-wink" hardship story, break a commitment to Drake and play for Illinois. Meanwhile, Indiana swoops up Eric Gordon and they're the Devil. Complete nonsense--you're way out of line for even suggesting it. I've seen Rayvonte Rice 20+ times in summers and the regular season over the last three years and watched him improve his game every year into a complete player. He's very talented and he'll be a standout in the MVC. It's apparent to me that either Illinois isn't interested in Mr. Rice--or he isn't interested in them. He hasn't been hidden. After this gem, Mr. Tate, you might consider that trip to Florida. One way.
seen him play many times. very good high school player. no way on earth a player Weber should be going after. has Illinois sunk that low to be reaching for guys like this? As for state champs- They wouldn't make it out of the LT sectional this year. The state tourney is a joke.
What is Loren Tate's infatuation with Rayvonte Rice? Rayvonte is a very good player; however, there are alot of good players out there. Why is it necessary that Loren goes out of his way to write this article? The players that Illinois is currently recruiting are also very good, and probably better than Rayvonte Rice.
Loren has lost all touch with reality, and the game has passed him by. Loren you need to focus on writing articles that are pertinent to Illini athletics.
Coach Phelps came to Drake with one plan, to bring in true student athletes. I don't know why Rayvonte Rice chose Drake, but he must of felt it was right for him. He must of felt a connection to the character off the court. In his one year at Drake, Coach Phelps has recruited intelligent young men, who will have a chance at a successful life off the court. With 11 freshman, or first year players, the Bulldogs have proven they are heading in the right direction under Phelps. Maybe we should ask Eric Gordon.








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