Here is the answer to where did Ron Guenther coach.

I found this article mentioning Ron Guenther at the following website.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-xc/spec-rel/090607aaa.html

Here is the part that talks about Ron Guenther and where he coached along with his brother Hank Guenther at North Central College in Illinois.

Maybe this explains why Ron Guenther doesn't have a problem with co-coordinators since Ron and his brother were both listed as co-coaches of the football team.

"His memories of the Orange and Blue are still being made today. When Carius was the athletics director at North Central Colllege, he hired Hank Guenther as football coach, who in turn hired his brother, Ron, as associate head coach. Ron would later be named Illinois' director of athletics, a position in which he still serves today."

I looked up the football record for North Central College during the time that Ron and his brother coached at the college which was during the 1975 through 1978 time period.

Here's where I found these football records.

http://northcentralcardinals.com/sports/20...218.aspx?id=252

Year Coach Overall CCIW (Place)

1978 Hank & Ron Guenther 6-3 5-3 (T-3rd)

1977 Hank & Ron Guenther 6-3 5-3 (T-3rd)

1976 Hank & Ron Guenther 5-3-1 4-3-1(5th)

1975 Hank & Ron Guenther 5-3-1 5-2-1(2nd)

Since Ron was coaching along with his brother Hank it'll be hard for any critic of Ron Guenther to say how much of the success or failure of the North Central College football team was his fault or his brother's fault.

So now anyone that cares will know why Ron Guenther is called Coach Guenther.

I coached flag football for McKinley YMCA while a college Jr back in fall 1981, and then again when my own sons were lads...when they moved to youth ball, and then to high school, I was a board member of our local youth tackle organization.............not all that different from the football guy

maybe I should have gone with the 'coach' moniker, too.

Then again, I earned a few degrees and professional licenses in my day, and I dont use those titles, either


some of us feel self fulfilled, while others need those around them to make themselves feel important. whatever.

It's no fun not mentioning any of your degrees/licenses/titles if people don't realize that you're not mentioning them, is it?

:-)

Seriously, I don't know that it's Guenther who calls himself "Coach". It may be what other people call him, customarily, sort of like colonels in the Civil War were forever afterward called colonel.

Yeah, I don't know either. The only people that I've ever personally ever refer to him as coach are Steve Kelly, Loren Tate and Jim Turpin.

Zook has exclusively referred to him as Coach Gunether.

And the notion of two Guenthers coaching the same team together? Eek!

Rob Zombie couldn't think of something more scary than that..

Do any of the other coaches for the U of I call the AD coach? Personally I never heard Turner call him that either. I always just thought it was Zooks way of sucking up to his boss.

Between 'coach' and 'the football guy', those are two of the greatest misrepresentations and embarrassments of RG given the performance of the football program under his leadership.

I never thought of it that much, I always chalked it up to an old stereotype or saying. I had PE teachers in high school who didn't coach anything and all the other teachers referred to them as "coach" this or "coach that...

I mean yeah RG did coach, but I think its just a saying

Has he retained a guy who makes in excess of $3 million a year who goes out and consistently loses to Northwestern and Iowa State. Fire Barta. At least the Football Guy can find a guy to beat NU every once in a while. I'd take him over Barta any day of the week. Illinois has just had a few bad breaks, none of which are the Football Guy's fault.

What?

RG has hired 2 football coaches, Turner and Zook.

Turner: 1997-2004, 35 wins and 57 losses, 2 bowl games

Zook: 2005- present, 21 wins and 37 losses, 1 bowl game

Overall: 56 wins and 94 losses, 3 bowl games

RG is directly responsible for the terrible non-conference schedule that has made it more difficult to get to bowl games.

A few bad breaks? Give me a effing break!

Rt referred to him as coach as well. I'm not sure how this got started but I doubt RG told them to call him coach. It might something prevalent within the AA.

I had found message board entries from some people wanting to know where Ron Guenther had coached at previously before he came back to Illinois as Athletic Director.

I was curious about this as well, so after some digging on the Internet I was able to find the information that I posted earlier.

Since it was mentioned by another message board poster that Ron Guenther was also an assistant coach at Boston College I did some more researching and found that he was indeed an assistant football coach at Boston College.

Here's where I found the additional information at.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/sc...bb_guide_07.pdf

The section of the PDF document about Ron Guenther is on page 4 of the 6 page document.

Here's what the additional information had to say about "Coach Guenther".


Guenther spent eight years at North Central College in Naperville, Illinois,
including a stint from 1975 - 79 as director of admissions and also as an associate
head football coach.

From 1979 - 83, he served as the vice president of development and public affairs at North
Central, helping to design and implement a $15 million Capital Campaign.

As associate head football coach, Guenther helped the Cardinals amass a 23-12-2 record, including the school’s first winning season in 15 years.

Before moving to North Central College, Guenther was offensive line coach at Boston College
from 1971 – 74, helping to develop nine National Football League players.

From 1968 – 71, Guenther was a teacher and coached football, wrestling and track and field for the Evanston Township and Glenbard High School systems in suburban Chicago.



So now I and anyone else that was wanting to know why Ron Guenther has been called Coach Guenther by Coach Ron Zook will know the answer to this question.

I saw Loren Tate's column in Tuesday's NG, talking about and responding to responses he got to his Oct. 31 (I think it was) column saying, essentially, "Beat Michigan and you save your job, maybe, Coach Zook." Tate is obviously no starry-eyed homey cheerleader of a sports journalist -- he criticized Guenther's mid-season announcement that Zook would be staying though others would not -- but he defends Guenther's overall contribution to UofI athletics -- including his hire of Zook, given the talent pool available at the time. It was, I thought, a very thoughtful column and made me back up a step or two. Especially since I'd just seen a sports documentary recently on Coach K and the terrible beginning he had at Duke, when people were screaming for his head. We'd all like everything to happen in a relatively short term, but it takes time -- and sometimes some missteps -- before things begin to turn around permanently. I think we're seeing taht already in basketball. When Weber changed his recruting strategy, it began to pay dividends, though we didn't see it until this year. (When you start recruiting freshmen, you don't get immediate results.)

Only time will tell whether the last year or two have been just a couple of force-farts in the UofI football program and whether Zook and company are actually in the process of moving upward again at a sustainable rate of climb. But I'm now willing to give it a little more time before I unsheath my ax.

it is not so much that this is his 5th season , and we are most likely not going to a bowl game once again (which I blame more on RG than RZ)

it is how we lose and why we lose that bothers me

-stupid penalties
-no, or incompetant assts
-clock and game mismanagement
-player development
-playing the wrong people

there are way too many holes in his game. it has become obvious as time has gone on. too many for him tobe able to correct on the fly. RG doesnt want to admit it, and now he wont have to. The job of firing RZ will fall to the next AD.