Illinois football beat writer Bob Asmussen will have a daylong chat as Ron Zook signs his 2010 class
Moderator: Welcome to another signing day chat. I will be here for most of the day. I will have to take a break to go to Ron Zook's press conference at 3:30 p.m. and I will be on WDWS with Steve Kelly at 5:15. But other than that, I'm all yours.
Let's get to the questions.
BW, Tyngsboro, MA: Bob:
What doughnut are you eating?
Coffee: Strong, medium, or decaf?
Who's your pick for surprise commit?
Moderator: BW,
No doughnuts, yet. Maybe some will arrive.
I'm not a coffee drinker. It's either grape juice or Diet Pepsi in the morning. Yeah, I'm weird.
The surprise pick will be if Corey Cooper sticks with what he has told Ron Zook's staff and joins the Illini. It doesn't sound like that is going to happen. But you never know.
Moderator: Note the Q&As we've been posting. We are monitoring the arrival of letters of intent and loading up the interviews as the players sign.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: Who do you think will be among the most enjoyable to interview among these recruits in the next four years?
Moderator: Charley,
I've talked to most of the guys already and they are all very nice kids. Chandler Whitmer and Trulon Henry are great to interview. And both Wilsons are going to be good to talk to during their careers.
Harry, Chicago, IL: 5 unknowns today (Cooper, U. Johnson, E. Thomas, B. Denmark, and D. Millines)
Your guess as to how many fax over the LOI?
Moderator: Harry,
Great question and a tough call. I think the Illinois staff will be happy to hear from any of them.
I talked to Earnest Thomas on Tuesday, so I'm certain he will be signing. Of the remaining four, I'll go with one more.
Danimal, Champaign, Il: Bob,
What grade would you give the Zooker on this football class? Do you see any impact players who can help Zook keep his job? Did you take the Game Day bus for a spin yet?
Moderator: Danimal,
Not to evade the question, but we can't really grade the class for a couple of years. Based on reputation, the class would be in the C range, but that can change based on productivity.
I think the safeties could be impact players.
We got to do our Monday radio show on the "GameDay" bus and it was really cool. It would be fun to ride around town in it. Lots of gawking. It's very impressive and the driver is a great guy. He told us Bob Knight and Digger Phelps rarely get on the bus. Snobs.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: Who do you see among these recruits to become true natural leaders of the team in the next four years?
Moderator: Charley,
I'd have to start with Chandler Whitmer, who got to know some of the other recruits and tried to help bring guys to Illinois. I think Mark Wilson has leadership qualities. And Jay Prosch seems like a guy who would get in your face to get you to play better.
We'll have a better idea about leadership skills as the guys arrive on campus.
Moderator: Darius Millines has signed with the Illini. So, there is one of the undecideds Harry was asking about.
toddalan1975, Broadwell, Il: Do you know if anyone is carrying Coopers press conference on tv or the internet?
Moderator: toddalan1975,
Not that I know of. I will try to get the information as quickly as possible and let you know.
BW, Tyngsboro, MA: Great about Millines. Any doughnuts yet?
Pick another, maybe Denmark will sign?
Moderator: BW,
OK, go with Denmark. Of course, that's the native country of the Asmussens.
Still no doughnuts.
Drew, Champaign, IL: So according to SI we lost Cooper and we also lost Foose...not looking too good for the Zooker so far (minus the Millines sign)
Moderator: Drew,
I tried to call Dan Foose about 50 times on Tuesday and never heard back. That was a sign that he might have changed his mind.
I think the Illinois coaches feel like Earnest Thomas can be as good as Cooper. Of course, they want them both. And it's difficult to lose kids in your own state. Though Tom Lemming said it doesn't matter where your players come from.
I think you will see the new coaches made a strong push in Illinois for the class of 2011.
Wayne, Champaign, Il.: Bob, I like your informative work....you are keeping us up to date on football in Illini Nation.
My question....There has been disccussion about the recruiting rating that the Illini are going to have this year....50's to upper 60's or so...however, I read on a site (maybe you mentioned it) that Boise State has rated in the upper 50's to the 70's in the last 5 years. The last time I checked they are not doing too bad. Can you give us a take on the difference, other than winning. Our recruiting the last few years has been good and yet we are not able to translate it to W's. Thanks
Moderator: Wayne,
I think there is a flaw in the ratings system that gets exposed by schools like Boise State and Utah. The recruits are often judged not only on ability, but by what other schools make offers. That's wrong. Why do we believe coachees at Notre Dame and LSU know more about evaluating talent than coaches at Boise State? Based on recent history, the Broncos are better at figuring out what they need and then going out and getting it.
On the flip side, just because you bring together a bunch of high-rated classes it doesn't mean you are guaranteed success. Those players have to develop. Sometimes it doesn't work the way you hope.
Harry, Chicago, IL: Dan Foose to Florida State?
We just got Justin Green'ed!?
Moderator: Harry,
It happens. His coach told me Tuesday he was going to sign with Illinois. Obviously, something happened to change his mind.
I know that Florida State made a hard push for the kid. It sounds like the Seminoles might have a big day.
redgrange77, Frisco, TX: Bob-
Are you a little surprised ZERO JUCO DE or DT will be signed today? Were mediocre ones signed by schools that can take more borderline academic prospects??
Moderator: redgrange,
From what I understand, Illinois looked to junior colleges, but couldn't find a fit beyond Trulon Henry. There are some players who can't get into Illinois who will get into other schools. But I'm not sure that was the issue this time.
McCurdy, Winnetka, IL: It looks like we really struck out on d-linemen in this class. With Brent at Parkland, how bad is our line going to be next year?
Moderator: McCurdy,
It looks like the depth might be the issue there. Illinois needs Josh Brent to get his academics straightened out. It's a lot better defense with Corey Liuget and Brent anchoring the middle than it will be with just Liuget.
Jlanman, Orlando, Fl: Don't understand the scouting ratings. Spencer Harris had better stats than Kyle Prater both his Junior and Senior years. Don't understand how this kid can only carry a two star rating. He had one game in which he caught 8 passes for 229 yds and 4 TD's against a team ranked as high as 6th in the country. I think Coach Petrino has a diamond in the rough.
Moderator: Jlanman,
High school statistics, while a part of the ratings system, don't mean everything to those doing the grades. To the talent scouts, it's about who is recruiting you and what do you project to be in college. Spencer Harris might have a better career than Kyle Prater. The good thing is the players have a chance to prove the scouts wrong. And I think many guys are driven by that.
Kyle, Champaign, Illiniois: Will Chandler Whitmer Start next year?
Moderator: Kyle,
I think Chandler has a chance to start next year. But if I was lining them up right now, I would have Jacob Charest first, Nathan Scheelhaase second and Chandler third. But it's very close. Whoever performs in the spring and summer will get the job. Period. The new coaches are going to pick the starter based on what they see from this point forward. It's going to be fun to watch.
Toddalan1975, Broadwell, Il: So how many people are in the room as the fax's come in? Seems like alot of people get the same info at the same time as you guys do? also whats with the talk about doughnuts, now i am hungry...lol
Moderator: Toddalan,
No more doughnut talk.
The Illinois football offices are full of nervous coaches and support personnel. It doesn't take long for the word to get out.
Moderator: If you are wondering why Mark Wilson hasn't sent in his letter of intent, he is having a ceremony at his high school. I'm assuming he will send in his letter after that.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: Juice was the 'face' of the football team in the last 4 years. Who do you see as the next 'face' of the program?
Moderator: Charley,
Great question. With a tricky answer. I think it could be whoever takes over as the starting quarterback. Problem is we don't know who that will be.
It could also be Martez Wilson. Or Mikel Leshoure. Or Corey Liuget.
Long term though, if the new starting quarterback gets on a roll, he becomes the face of the program.
Eric, Champaign, Illinois: Are you dissapointed with our recruiting class this year?
Moderator: Eric,
It's not my place to be happy or disappointed about the recruiting class. I'm not surprised that Illinois isn't getting as highly rated kids as in the past because of the team's recent records. When you win, you get the higher-rated kids. That doesn't mean this class won't turn out to be very good. There are a whole bunch of examples at Illinois of guys who outperformed their stars.
Now, I would have liked to cover Kyle Prater for four years. I got to know him some and think he is a good kid. If there's disappointment, it comes from not getting to cover people you get to know. Robert Hughes is another example.
Ryan, Murfreesboro, TN: Upon hearing that potential recruits have signed somewhere else, do/can coaches ever call and figure out what went wrong, for future classes and to better themselves as recruiters?
Moderator: Ryan,
That sounds like a great idea. But I don't know how much it's done. I'm sure there is contact from the players to the coaches during the recruiting season. But once you've signed elsewhere, I'm guessing both sides move on.
Self-evaluation is a great thing. And you're right that it can only make you better in whatever you are doing.
Scott, Peoria, IL: where is MARK WILSON.....is he the only one they are waiting on right now, at least of the ones that were already verballed? Also Urell Johnson did stick with his TT commit. I guess the only one to hope for now is Denmark. any other thoughts?...
Moderator: Scott,
Mark told me Monday night that he is going to have a signing ceremony at the school. I think his letter must be coming in after that.
Illinois has had one last-minute loss (Foose) and a late get (Millines). That's pretty typical, other than last year.
Marcus, Winnetka, IL: I'm kinda shocked about foose... I talked to him 2 nights ago and he told me he how much he liked the people, the coaches, and just the entire environment. Wonder what changed his mind?...
Moderator: Marcus,
I think Florida State must have made a huge push, promising early playing time, etc.
When he didn't call me Tuesday, I got suspicious. But his words about Illinois were so strong, I figured he was just tired of talking. Turns out, it was something else. I wonder if I'll ever hear from him.
X5, Wasuau, WI: Speaking of Robert Hughes, do you think he's regretting his committment to Notre Dame because he's not playing much? I think he would of played more and maybe be a star at IL? Your take?
Moderator: X5,
I've run into Robert a few times and I talk to his uncle, too. While there is some disappointment, the way he played later in the 2009 season had him feeling better. And I think he's excited about the upcoming season.
It's hard to know what would have happened to him at Illinois, but he could have had a major impact. The running backs on campus are good too.
Derek, Tolono, Illinois: If Mikel Leshoure plays as good as he did towards the end of last season this whole entire year, could he be a longshot for the heisman?
Moderator: Derek,
You usually need a buildup season to get into that talk. Let's say he ran for 1,200 yards and 12 touchdowns. I think that would get him in the mix for his senior season.
Adam, Philo, IL: Any word on Cooper yet?
colin, dublin, ireland: Cooper has gone to the cornhuskers according to SI.com. Is there any other players that might sign that could replace him?
Moderator: Adam and Colin,
It sounds like Corey Cooper will be going to Nebraska, but I haven't heard anything officially. I would have liked to have gone to his annoucement today, but the timing didn't work out.
I think Earnest Thomas fills the spot that Corey Cooper would have taken.
Kelvin Sampson, Bloomington, Indiana: What are your thoughts on the Alabama Fullback we got. Can he be a good player?
Moderator: Kelvin,
He hasn't played fullback, but he sounds willing to try. You have to like a guy who has played offensive line and linebacker in high school. Auburn, which is having a great recruiting season, was interested, so that's a good sign.
He played for a state championship team. He's got a very good personality. And it sounds like he is ready to work.
Steve Oien, St. Charles, MO: There's a lot of concern over the lack of defensive lineman in this class. What is the status of 2009 signees Lendell Buckner, Michael Buchanan and Akeem Spence. Are they still on the team and do they look like they'll develop into starters in the future?
Moderator: Steve,
They are looking for more playing time and should be able to get it. I heard good things about Akeem Spence during the 2009 season and Michael Buchanan has already shown flashes of what he can become.
I think all three have the potential to start, possibly very soon.
Howard, Round Lake, Il.: Are we expecting any more signees?
Moderator: Howard,
Mark Wilson will sign. There could be others.
Jake, Shelbyville, IL: Bob,
It looks like you have learned your lesson after last years fiasco and are being much more reserved about your opinions of the players that are signing. I believe we all have learned a valuable lesson and let's hope that continues. You do a great a job with the chats and stay remarkably cool considering some of the questions you get.
Moderator: Jake,
Thanks. Recruiting is very difficult. The players are very excited when they make a commitment and sometimes that enthusiasm carries over to others. Honeestly, we can't predict what the top-rated recruit is going to do in college. We can guess, but until they get on campus with their new teammates and coaches, we don't really know.
I've been surprised by a lot of recruits at Illinois, both positively and negatively. The negative stories seem to get more attention. But you can't ignore guys like J Leman and Jon Asamoah who outperform expectations.
Mayor Quimby, Springfield, IL: Bob,
Do you find it ironic that an election and signing day are on back to back days, seeing as politics and recruiting are probably the two dirtiest businesses in the country?
Moderator: Mayor,
I thought about that last night. Schools are worried about getting the next star quarterback and Gov. Quinn is worried about keeping his job.
I hope that recruiting has been cleaned up some in recent years. It's not like it was during the "Johnny B Goode" era.
Karter, chicago, IL: I don't see any players that weren't commits who surprised us? Are we expecting anyone else before the signing period is over with?
Moderator: Karter,
There could be another guy or two. The class is at 19 right now and I think there is room for 20-21.
Scott, Peoria, IL: a quick comment here. it seems a lot of people on here are disappointed with this class, but I say why don't we just hold off on our judgements until they all hit the field. Stars do not mean SQUAT! Sure, we would all love to have nothing but 4-5 * 'studs', but look at Iowa, Boise, Utah, TCU....etc.... I feel this class has a lot of potential just like the other classes under Zook. I also have a better feeling about it this year because it seems like the athletes appear to be very good students as well! That is a great thing! Anyway.....waiting for the final LOI!
Moderator: Scott,
You make a lot of good points. There is nothing wrong with a motivated group of recruits and that seems to fit the current class. They will work hard to prove folks wrong.
Boise State is a great example of a school that wins without the benefit of high-rated classes. It can be done.
I think retaining and developing the players is more important than who you bring in initially.
Big D, Champaign, IL: So, earlier in your blog you argue that it's wrong for recruits to be judged by what schools are interested in them. Later, you talk up one of our recruits by saying its a good sign he had interest from Auburn. Which is it?
Moderator: Big D,
You caught me. The reason I pointed to Auburn is that the Tigers seem to have a good idea of what they are doing. They just won a New Year's Day bowl and are bringing in several high-rated recruits. If you are on their list, that's probably a good thing.
But you're right, you can't have it both ways. So, ignore my earlier comment about the kid being recruited by Auburn. I shouldn't have included that information.
Peter Borich, Urbana, Illinois: Bob:
I believe a positive of a lower-regarded recruiting class with two-and-three stars players as opposed to one with four-and-five star players is that you end up with players that have a better understanding of the team concept. It seems to me that the higher-rated kids are more apt to complain and moan about a lack of playing time, thereby creating a team discension problem. Does my view hold any water in your opinion? From what I have heard, there has been a plethora of complaining by the "star" players on the Illini about how much PT they were getting.
Moderator: Peter,
While I understand what you are saying, there are a bunch of examples of five-star kids who work hard and don't complain. Bottom line, you want the most talented kids on your team. But having a bunch of guys who are motivated by the lack of recognition they received is a good thing.
I think all recruits view themselves as team players. The guys who are selfish usually don't pan out. I think that happens everywhere.
Carrie, springfield, il: So basically for this year's class, we only have have 1 potential 4 star player or higher and we miss out on the top players in the state of IL? How dissappointing. Your take.
Moderator: Carrie,
I think the Illinois coaches would tell you they are disappointed about not getting more of the top players in the state. That is always the intent.
But they would tell you, and I would tell you, that you have to hold your judgement on the class. Maybe 10 starters come from this group. You can't tell until the guys start their careers.
I will say that all fans want their recruits to be highly rated. Why not? You want to know that your school is getting the best players. And if it isn't getting the best players, you are going to be disappointed. That's the nature of recruiting.
Steve, Dawson, IL: What is your sense of the Josh Brent situation? Is he done as an ILLINI?
Moderator: Steve,
I don't think we know what will happen with Josh. If he does his work, he will be back with the team. But if he continues to struggle, he will be done.
His future is in his hands. We'll find out how important football is to him based on what he does in the coming months.
Ryan, Decatur, IL: I agree with Peter on the team concept. Take a look at the top teams in HS in IL. They don't always produce stars but somehow manage to win state championships year after year with an occeasional D1 prospect or two. And on the flip side, neither Prater or Cooper's teams really got anywhere in the state playoffs. Do you think that same concept applies on the college level?
Moderator: Ryan,
I think it does to a point. But you need talent to win in college. Of course, the more we guys you have, the better you are going to be.
As for Prater, his team did more this year in football than at any point in its history and he was a big part of it. It doesn't sound like Corey Cooper had much help at Proviso East.
Bryan, Indianapolis, IN: what is the latest on Calvin Smith? Will he sign or is he going elsewhere
Moderator: Bryan,
I'm trying to find out. It sounds like he is SEC or ACC bound.
Jason, Pekin, IL: Any chances of Prosch being our next MLB? That size is similar to Brian Urlacher.....scary!
Moderator: Jason,
It sounds like he likes the idea of fullback and sees that as a quicker way to get on the field. He is a confident kid. But if the coaches think he can help at linebacker, they might give it a try.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: Bob, if Zook had to put a 'magic number' of wins on the team board inside their locker room for 2010, what would that number be?
Moderator: Charley,
If you are talking about staying at Illinois, the number would be six. But if you are talking about a goal for his team, I'd say he puts down 12. You can't have your guys thinking about a loss before the season. So, 12 stays up until it becomes impossible. Then you drop the number to 11, 10, etc.
Scott , Peoria, IL: I heard Calvin Smith will or has signed with our old assistant at New Mexico????
Moderator: Scott,
Thanks for the information. I don't think it has happened yet.
When I get a break, I'm going to check out the recruiting classes at New Mexico (Mike Locksley) and Akron (Curt Mallory).
LO, Kazoo, MI: Why does the Big Ten limit LOI's while other conferences allow a school to send as many as they want? Is this a recent rule that the Big 10 adopted or has it been since the Big 2/remaining 8 days? Will the NCAA step in to start regulating LOI's?
Moderator: LO,
I don't know why the Big Ten puts in the limits. The LOIs, I believe, are regulated by the conference commissioners. I don't think the NCAA will get involved in that. The organization has plenty of other challenges on its plate.
I would like to see it the same for everybody. And it makes no sense that that isn't the case already. You've got to keep it fair.
Jeremy, Benton, IL: I have heard a lot about grading this class and I read this somewhere and believe it is correct? Who cares what grade somebody gives this or any class for that fact on a Wednesday in February. The only thing that matters is the grade they have earned 2,3, and 4 years from now as a class on the field, in the classroom, and in the community.
Go Illini!
I bet right now, the "magic" number would be 1. Beat Mizzou!!!
Moderator: Jeremy,
Or two: Beat Missouri and Michigan.
Jim Bob, Dallas, TX: Bob, Calvin Smith signed with New Mexico
Moderator: Jim Bob,
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the update. I'm monitoring about 50 sites, but you guys are increasing that reach to about 1,000.
Illinifan26, Rantoul, IL: Do you see this as a pivotal year for coach Zook and his staff? By that I mean with all the coaching changes this offseason will the program look to move on if they aren't successful this season or do you think he still has a few more years to turn it around?
Moderator: Illinifan,
I don't think there's any question that the program needs to show progress for the coaches to remain. Ron Guenther has made that clear. What he won't do is put a win total on it. And I agree with him on that. Illinois could have a 4-8 season that included several close losses. How do you let the coach go after that? It won't be the wins. it will be how the team looks that matters relative to the future.
Russ, Potomac, IL: With 2 terrible seasons in a row, is Zook satisfied with this class?
Moderator: Russ,
No matter who they bring in, the coaches are always going to talk nice about their incoming class. Ron Zook feels he has some under-the-radar guys who can be really good players. He didn't need a ton of help from this class. What he needed was guys who can develop in a couple of years.
London, Tilton, IL: Any chance one of the RB recruits turn into our next Urlacher type MLB?
Moderator: London,
I think that's possible. The fullbacks have linebacker size. But I think the intent initially is to use them at fullback. That was a need area for the team because of the offense Paul Petrino wants to run.
Justin, Cayuga, IN: If we are to fall below .500 once again next season, will Zook use the excuse that the kids haven't matured yet and we have a new staff to stay on board?
Moderator: Justin,
If Illinois is below .500 and the losses are mostly lopsided, I don't think there will be allowable excuses. But the way Ron Zook has talked about the new coaches, he expects them to provide a boost, not to be a detriment. Some of the recruiting experts I talked to said they thought the influx of coaches was good for Illinois. The season will tell us whether or not that's right.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: Who do you think will be our 'Justin Green' this year?
Moderator: Charley,
It could be Darius Millines. But it also sounds like the coaches have one or two more hopefuls coming today.
Colin, Dublin, Ireland: Who if any of the players coming in do you expect to see significant time on the field in the upcoming season?
Moderator: Colin,
I think Trulon Henry is going to play a lot. And I think Earnest Thomas will get an early shot. The new fullbacks and tight ends will get long looks. So will the new receivers.
Except for the offensive linemen, everybody in the class should be counting on at least getting a chance to play early.
Allen, Litchfield, IL: Anthony Williams in his Q & A said that his favorite player is Chad Ochocinco because of the way that he carries himself on the field as well as off the field. This raises some flags for me concerning Anthony's perspective on role models. What's your thoughts on this statement from Anthony?
Moderator: Allen,
I read that as he likes Ochocinco's personality. I wasn't too alarmed by it. Anthony seems like a nice kid.
X5, Wausau, wi: I understand that we can't grade the class until 3-4 years down the road, but I also know that when you recruit 4 and 5 star players your chance of being good and staying good are a whole lot better? Tell me I'm wrong. Also the Zooker and his staff has not shown the ability to make their players better.
Moderator: X5,
Of course, the higher rated players would seem to have the better chance for success. They are faster, bigger, etc. than the two- to three-star guys. But you can be good without superstar recruits.
From what I understand, the new coaches are very good teachers.
Marcus, Monument, Colorado: Bob,
What is the status of Mark Wilson?
How many do you think the Illini will sign?
Moderator: Marcus,
Mark Wilson just sent in his LOI. I think there might be another guy or two coming, which would put the class at 20-21.
Scott , Peoria, IL: Mark Wilson is IN....welcome to all new Illini and waiting on a surprise or two to finish out the day!
Luke, Rochester, IL: Did Illini need to have signed DT and DE?
Moderator: Luke,
I think every coach wants to add defensive linemen. The great tackles are hard to find.
Jason, Pekin, IL: Who would you consider, if any, the sleeper(s) in this class?
Moderator: Jason,
Recruiting expert Randy Taylor really likes Michael Heitz. He looks at the guy's frame and projects him as a starting left tackle. So, start with him. I think Jay Prosch fits the sleeper idea too.
Doug, Wheaton, IL: Always fun to start talking football in February! Thanks for holding these chats in the off season Bob.
While I realize we need improvement from all units coming into next year, I was thinking about what units are the most questionable coming into next year. I started with the quarterback position with the secondary being a close second. What do you think? And are we in for a surprise with either of these units next year? I know our QB unit should be strong long term, but there's just not a whole lot of experience between the 4 of them.
Moderator: Doug,
It all starts with the quarterback. Paul Petrino has said that. He wants to find his starter ASAP, if possible, while continuing to develop the other guys. The lack of playing time is a concern, but Jacob Charest has been on the field some.
The secondary could turn into a strength if the players continue to improve and the new guys pitch in as expected. It will be interesting to see if Miami Thomas is able to come back.
pete, tomah, wi: What are you envisioning for Mark Wilson his freshmen year? Can he start at one of the LB spot?
Moderator: Pete,
I don't know that he will start at linebacker, but I think he can be a top reserve. And I think he will be a big part of the special teams.
Jason, chicago, il: How do you envision Justing Green this coming year? Am I wrong to suspect great things already?
Moderator: Jason,
Justin is a very talented player. I think Paul Petrino will find a way to get him involved in the offense. Maybe in an untraditional way. How about he becomes the Wildcat quarterback? He can be used at a bunch of different spots on offense. And he can still be a significant running back.
Brian, Urbana, IL: Bob,
any idea on who the remaining couple players are that the coaches are waiting on?
Moderator: Brian,
Brandon Denmark, the defensive end from Florida, could be one of them. Beyond him, I'm not sure.
Marcus, Monument, Colorado: Bob,
Could the Illini steal Corey Lemonier out of Florida?
Moderator: Marcus,
That would seem to be a long shot, but you never know. Ron Zook always seems to land an unexpected guy or two on or around signing day.
Moderator: I'm going to take about a 15-minute break to check on some of the recruits. I will start answering again at 10:45
Moderator: I'm back. Sorry about that. Let's get to some more questions.
Tom, Urbana, IL: Bob,
in your break, did you find out who else they expect so sign?
Moderator: Tom,
I did. Illinois is waiting on Brandon Denmark. I don't know that there is anybody else.
Moderator: Just checked the Akron recruiting list. They have 16 players, including two from Illinois.
I heard from Curt Mallory last night. He is enjoying his time with the Zips. He is going to the Super Bowl this weekend to watch his brother Mike with the Saints. That sounds like fun.
Don, Morrison, Illinois: The chat room gossip always says we did not address the line problems on both sides of the ball. I like our recruits we have got so far and wonder if the much more ballyhooed freshmen linemen last year that were redshirted are ready now to step up and who do you think they are?
Moderator: Don,
Coaches will always tell you that the linemen take longer to get ready for college. Some aren't big enough or it takes them time to learn the system. I think the 2009 line recruits will help more in 2010. That's logical. The upperclassmen are critical too, especially guys like Corey Liuget and Clay Nurse.
Lowell, Denver, CO: Paul Dancy JC DE 6'4" 250lb 4.68-40 would make a great starter - did IL drop out?
Moderator: Lowell,
I don't know what happened there. But Paul is down to Iowa State and Colorado State.
JE, Louisville, KY: I know its not highly rated, but think these kids may be more hungry to be on the field making them work harder. Your thoughts
Moderator: JE,
Nothing drives a person like being told they can't do it. I know I get motivated by being told I can't do something or I'm not as good as the next person. I think we are all like that.
In a perfect recruiting world, you would get the most skilled players, who are also highly motivated. But that doesn't always happen.
Ralph , Chicago, IL: Just saw some video on Ean Days and I am very impressed with his ability @ rb. Some say he will make the switch to DB, but IMO I would like to see him @ RB. Also saw video on Earn Thomas and Kid is a beast. He is quick hard hitting and read and react quickly. I saw him and Walt Aikens are your start Safeties. I don't wanna see Garrett Edwards besides special teams. I don't care that he is smart. Dude isn't a player. I like Trulon but I just think long term Thomas and Aikens have more upside and should start from day one. Especially Aikens from what I saw last year, the kid can play. What are your thoughts?
Moderator: Ralph,
Ean had a very good career as a running back. I think it's possible he'll get a look on offense.
Earnest Thomas could end up being the star of the class. I think he will have a chance to play early. Walt Aikens definitely showed his potential in 2009. He also, at times, looked like a young guy trying to figure it out.
What you've pointed out is that Illinois has more options at safety than it did in 2009.
Jbo, Alma, AR: Just saw someone talking about Spencer Harris from Greenwood. They are in our HS conference and I've been watching him for a while. The radio commentators were talking about him yesterday as well. Not real fast, but hands like glue. Also a basketball player (saw him last week) so he has good footwork and agility. I don't think he is a 5* by any means, but he could work out well. Down here some are upset he didn't become a Ra
Moderator: Jbo,
Thanks for the scouting report. I know the Illinois coaches were excited to get him. After some of the troubles catching the ball in recent seasons, glue-fingered receivers are a priority at Illinois.
I think the receiving corps at Illinois could be a bit better than some expect. We'll see in the spring.
Dr. Phil, Orland Park, IL: Bob, if Corey Cooper had signed with Illinois, who would have had a better chance in starting, Cooper or Thomas? Did Cooper's stock fall, because I saw Whitmer was rated higher than Cooper?
Moderator: Dr. Phil,
I think Corey Cooper and Earnest Thomas would have been about even going into training camp.
Cooper's stock didn't fall. And I think he can have a very good career at Nebraska.
The hard part for the Illinois program relative to Cooper is that he is an instate kid who they invested a lot of time in. I think they were hoping he would still come to C-U. When he didn't, it was a disappointment to them. But it doesn't mean Illinois is going to stop recruiting in the state. If anything, I believe the coaches will work even harder to get the Illinois kids to stay home.
Jake, Sfhelbyville, Il: Bob,
There is always the possibility that a kid goes to a school and he doesn't like it or things just don't work out. Maybe one or two that got away might eventually end up at Illinois . We have seen that happen many times over the years to the Illini as well as many other schools.
Moderator: Jake,
Good point. Jon Beutjer is one Illinois example. Akim Millington is another.
The further away you go to school, the easier it is to get frustrated with the situation. You don't have that nearby support system to tell you everything is going to be all right.
Alamo, champaign, illinois: Bob, this class reminds me of Zook's first recruiting class. A last-minute scramble to find players with any Big Ten potential, resulting in several "reaches". Kind of like a Bears draft.
Moderator: Alamo,
I don't think the Bears pick this year until the 15th round.
I don't think it's quite like the 2005 class because there are still some holdover coaches. But the number of early commitments is similar.
I think the new coaches were able to find some quality kids, maybe undervalued. But it doesn't matter if they can play.
Peter Borich, Urbana, Illinois: Can Zook get Rayvonte Rice to de-commit from Drake and play football here? That would make Tate happy . . . .
Moderator: Sorry for the short break. I had to drive from home to the paper and got caught during the midday rush minute.
Peter,
I like that. You know, Rayvonte was a pretty good football player before he gave up the sport to concentrate on basketball.
My two cents on Rayvonte: He's going to tear up the Missouri Valley.
Ralph, Chicago, IL: I just looked at the two LB's and they are really impressive. They are big time hitters and have natural insticts at the position. I am guessing they will be good special teamers for the first half of the year. But I fully expect them to be big time players by the end of the yr or going into their Soph years.One thing that might happens is they move Martez to DE.
Moderator: Ralph,
I'm sure that Martez is staying at linebacker. The question is whether it's in the middle or on the outside. I don't see him playing defensive end.
Dennis , McHenry, Illinois: When can coaches start recruiting for 2011? Is next year's instate class considered good? Does this staff have what it takes to get bring in more instate recruits and keep Illinois kids here?
Moderator: Dennis,
They can start recruiting today. In fact, Illinois might have made some junior offers today. That's what they've done in the past.
In late April, May, they can go to the high schools to meet with the coaches and evaluate the academics of the prospects. It's an important time.
I think 2011 is a good class in Illinois. I'm basing that on what I heard while doing this year's all-state team. Plenty of good prospects out there.
I think the new coaches are good recruiters. And Dan Disch is still on the staff. The new coaches need to develop relationships with the coaches, especially in the Chicago area. But Disch has already been working there. So has Ron Zook.
Jim, St. Louis area , Mis-ery: Bob: Looks like we have a class of lower star ratings..but some of the kids REALLY wanted to come play for the ILLINI and this should translate into some 120% efforts! The player interviews would indicate an intelligent group. There are always surprises: Years ago we recruited Scott Sommler out of Alton..an absolute physical speciman...held all the weight room records. Richie Solomon an ILLINI asst. coach said that when he crossed the chalk line onto the field, he turned into a midget....so you never truely know. Thanks for being our lifeline!!!
Moderator: Jim,
I was impressed with the guys during the interviews. And you are right, they seem to want to be here. That's always a positive sign.
There are a bunch of five-star guys who haven't lived up to expectations. And it goes the other way, too.
ron, champaign, il: Any chance the new coaches might influence (legally) any former players or recruits to come here due to lack of PT or such? They would be kids they knew and probably a relationship of the highest positive level. Also, it seems Iowa gets a lot of Juco linemen to feed their system...can/should we work that harder since the big guys take a little more time to develop? Great dialogue here, thanks!
Moderator: Ron,
I think that happens all the time, often with an initial contact by the player. I wouldn't be surprised to see a former Louisville player come to Illinois. Less likely somebody from Arkansas would do that because of the relationship between Paul and Bobby.
The only problem with junior college linemen is that you only have them for two years. Illinois has had a bunch of three-year starters in recent years and I think that would be my preference too.
Lovie, Lake Forest, IL: Any chance Illini would bring back Deangelo McCray as DT?
Moderator: Lovie,
I don't see that happening. McCray was not a good fit at Illinois.
Elroy, Philo, IL: Bob, I think I see a strategy developing with Coach Petrino. The Illni were 3rd in rushing in the Big Ten last year. Coach P is recruting some big boys at the FB spot. Do you think we may see a smash mouth type of running game in 2010?
Moderator: Elroy,
I definitely think there will be some of that. Lots of Isos.
Coach Petrino realizes he's got good talent at tailback and inexperienced quarterbacks. It makes sense to rely on the running game. The offensive line will be critical.
Bob, Orland Park, IL: Any word on the boys out of Florida? Any chance Lemmonier signs with the Illini?
Moderator: Bob,
Looks like Lemonier is off to Auburn. I don't know what's going on with Brandon Denmark.
DieHardIllini, Chesterfield, Mo: Bob, is there an explanation as to why the recruiting dropped so precipitously? When coach Zook got here all he had to sell was the school, some early playing time and the hope of future success. Is that not what he has now? I am not sure why things took a turn for the worse after a few really good recruiting classes, big names, and hype it seems as though we are back at square 1 again. Is there something that us from the outside looking are not seeing or why is there always a black cloud over Illinois football?
Moderator: Diehard,
There's a difference in recruiting when you first take over a program and when you've been at a place for a while.
Yes, the staff has playing time to sell. But the failure to continue the success of 2007 has been a problem. Rival coaches are using that drop against the Illini in recruiting, pointing out the instability and uncertain future for the staff.
What Illinois needs more than anything else is a decent run of winning seasons. Not two, but five. That would change the program forever. But until that happens, Illinois is going to face a recruiting pendulum. Some good years. Some bad.
Tim, Urbana, IL: any idea when they will hear about Denmark either way?
Moderator: Tim,
I'm hoping soon.
ron, champaign, il: Follow up question. I was thinking the big Juco linemen come after one year, and after coaches would have a year of post high school film to evaluate talent level. Seems like a good feeder system and helps the kid academically as well. Maybe even sprinkle in a redshirt year to help reach the three year starter contribution you mentioned. To me, it all starts with the offensive line...plain and simple.
Moderator: Ron,
I couldn't agree with you more. Most coaches see junior college guys as immediate impact types and don't consider redshirting them. But it is a good idea for some offensive linemen.
Illini1973, Belleville, ILL...ini: Of all the ones that 'got away', which may be the one to hurt the most? I see Locs got the kid from EStL as well.
Moderator: Illini1973,
I think you'd have to go with C.J. Fiedorowicz or Kyle Prater, who could have had a major impact in 2010.
Good luck to Detchauz Wray at New Mexico.
Dave, Urbana, IL: according to the blog, have one more signee coming in soon
Moderator: Dave,
That's got to be Denmark.
Rob, Champaign, IL: Bob- I'm not as down on this class as everyone else seems to be. I really think there are a lot of guys like Brandon Moore, Muhammed Abdullah, David Deihl...maybe not in the same positions but guys that seem to be football players, maybe not as athletic as recent signings but solid football players that can end up being the backbone of your program.
Moderator: Rob,
That potential is always there. Bottom line, Illinois took guys it believed could help now and into the future. And I'm guessing you are right that there will be a Diehl-type guy or three in this class.
Ken, Urbana, IL: Bob,
will the coaches be assigned different areas over the summer? With so many coaching changes am guessing that some changes will be made?
Moderator: Ken,
Yes, there will be some reconfiguring of recruiting areas. I'm assuming Dan Disch will continue with his areas. And so will Joe Gilbert and Keith Gilmore. But the coaches are going to look for the most logical places to recruit.
DeAndre Smith will continue in the Chicago Public League and St. Louis area, where he worked for other schools. I'm guessing Illinois will hit Chicago hard, but I think it would make sense for Paul Petrino to have a big presence there.
Sammie, Chi Town, ILLINOISE: What's the story regarding late recruit D.J. Woods (DT) from FL coming in for a visit this weekend?
Moderator: Sammie,
I am trying to find out if there is interest from Illinois. His recruitment might be dictated by what has happened already or by what is about to happen.
ron, champaign, il: Dare we be so lucky to have one of the new coach/recruiting sources bring us a kicking game? Unless we play better than recent years, we will again need a punter...plus a consistent endzone kickoff would be nice. Surely, Zook is not going to hold himself out as a competent special teams coach this year??? On a defense note, wouldn't it be nice to see some gang tackle ball-stripping like the real FB teams do? Fundamentals!!!!
Moderator: Ron,
I think there's a possibility the new coach could have some special teams credentials. I don't know that for sure.
And I think Vic Koenning will promote a more aggressive style, which means ripping the ball away from running backs, receivers and quarterbacks.
LO, Kazoo, MI: Keeping with the thread on JUCO linemen, any possibility of Craig Drummond or Tank Carridine being added to the mix in the next year or have those ships sailed? I know Drummond decommitting probably left a bad taste, but...
Moderator: LO,
I think those ships have sailed. I can't imagine Ron Zook going back to Craig Drummond. Tank simply couldn't make it academically.
Yeah, Chambanana, IL: Brandon Denmark is ILLINI!
Moderator: Yeah,
That puts the class at 20 and includes two kids from Tallahassee. Give Dan Disch a lot of credit for those two.
I checked the team rankings about 30 minutes ago and Illinois was eighth in the Big Ten according to Rivals and last according to Scout. That doesn't include the late commits.
Tom Lemming said it's a down year in the Big Ten. He judges the success of a program's recruiting partly on how it rates against the rest of the league. By that measure, it has gone better for Illinois.
HC, McHenry, Il.: I went on ESPN and saw that the Illini has 19 signees with a 4 star recruit from Florida. Is ESPN correct with this information?
Moderator: HC,
The number of players is 20. I don't know which Illinois recruit ESPN rates as a four-star player.
ron, champaign, il: As the signing day winds down, I am not discouraged. I have felt we have had very talented players on campus since Zook began bringing them in. The terrible injustice, in my mind,has been the lack of properly ultilizing the talent, and not developing it in each and every case. Bringing in some ambitious kids and nurturing them the right way will complement the pool already here. Not to restate the obvious, but look at successful programs: solid coaches with program continuity, demonstrated system of player development, helpful feeder lines from trusting and respectful high school coaches, and timely, subtle matching of talent to game plans. Much more than that to it I realize, but we can and should have a proud and successful football program at this Big Ten school.
Moderator: Ron,
Well stated. I think the new coaches will help. But I think having the same guys in charge over time is the way to go. Look at the success at Iowa, which has had little coaching turnover.
Yeah, Chambanana, IL: Millines is considered 4 * by ESPN
Infoman, Bristol, CT: Millines is the 4-star
Moderator: Yeah and Infoman,
Thanks for the update.
Ken, Champaign, IL: Given the recent records and coaching staff now, congrats to all the coaches for their recrutitng efforts. Go Illini!
Moderator: Ken,
I will pass along your message.
Brian, Fresno, Ca: ESPN had Darius Millines as the four star.
Moderator: Brian,
Thanks. I should have included you with Infoman and Yeah.
Darrin, Champaign, IL: Is Zook stoked about this class?
Moderator: Darrin,
Ron Zook is stoked about everything. But I think he will be very animated about how he feels about this class.
Jbo, Alma, AR: Denmark to Illinois as per Rivals. My concern with this class is lack of speed.
Moderator: Jbo,
That's one thing that's difficult to repair in a big way. Guys can improve their speed some, but not the same way they can get bigger and stronger.
Illini1973, Belleville, ILL...ini: There was a lot of 'hoopla' with the OC we brought in last year and his 'high powered, proven system'. What makes you think this year's version is the answer?
Moderator: Illini1973,
I'm basing my thoughts on Paul Petrino after talking to some of the people who covered the Arkansas team. I didn't do that with Mike Schultz. Probably should have in hindsight.
I don't think anybody is saying the guy will lead the nation in total offense. But his track record is pretty good.
Chris, Peoria, IL: What position will Brandon Denmark play for Illinois in your opinion?
Moderator: Chris,
I think he'll be a defensive end.
Jbo, Alma, AR: There was a statement earlier concerning Spencer Harris' stats. He comes from a program that runs the spread exclusively. They always have 4 wide outs and many times they have 5. The QB is NEVER under center and they throw the ball A LOT. That would account for some of his stats, but he is also a very good receiver with good hands. Doesn't matter how often you throw the ball if he can't catch it. He is also a good size at 6' 3".
Moderator: Jbo,
Another great scouting report. You chatter s are good.
Oaktree2412, Moline, Illinois: Bob...well done on the chats...Ohio State and Penn State are clearly the best...Michigan will soon regain it's position...Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Northwestern are in the next level...which leaves us with Indiana, Purdue and Minnesota to bring up the rear. With this recruiting class and our coaching staff on a short leash,please give me some reason to be encouraged...
Moderator: Oaktree,
There is already talent on hand. And the new coaches could reinvigorate the program. I sense a change in Ron Zook too. I don't think he's going to try to do everything like he has in the past.
Jim, St. Louis area, Mis-ery: Bob:
Do you know if we have another coaching position to fill? If so, it might be an excellent idea to hire a RECRUITER instead of for a specific position. We continue to miss out in TX. and even St. Louis this year,although it was a down year in St. Louis. Next year should be above average in IL, and much better in the St. Louis metro. This year Wi., Pur., Ia., and Mn.all took at least one from St. Louis metro. I sure hope we give these areas some consideration in 2011. Thanks!
Moderator: Jim,
There is one position to fill, the spot vacated by Curt Mallory. I'm guessing it will be a guy with a great reputation as a recruiter. And you are right about the areas Illinois might want to focus on for the Class of 2011.
ron, champaign, il: You are close to the program. Do you think Zook has truly acquieced(sp)to the idea of being a CEO role? Right or wrong, the Schultz OC experiment did not work, but no way to know what might have been.
I meant to mention a thought earlier too. First-time HC's like Zook and others bring in a fresh stable of coaches. I think they make a big mistake by not critically and objectively reviewing each coach at end of year one. They brought them often because they worked as fellow assistants and buddies so gather their friends for comfort. This mistake is shared by most new coaches and probably many leaders in other fields I would guess. Coordinators are typically new, so you have a whole group of coaches in an on-the-job training setting. No different than the new recruits they are trying to teach. Sadly, the media only rips players for their inexperience, but waits too long to expose the teachers. The coaches get a pass based on their frenetic energy and can-do speak. Then a new HC is brought in and it starts over.
Moderator: Ron,
I do think Ron Zook is ready to change some. He had a tough time during the season, from what I understand.
It is difficult for first-time coaches to put a staff together, but Ron Zook was a second-time head coach when he came to Illinois. He did bring some of his former Florida coaches with him.
jim, Plainfield, IL: What happened to Trevaughn Faircloth?
Moderator: Jim,
It doesn't look like he has signed yet. I'm guessing the other players Illinois signed made him less of a priority.
Yo, Danville, IL: Ryan Lankford and Darius Millines both have 4.4 speed at wide out . . that should make for a screaming pair in the future catching passes from good quartet of QB's and still more outstanding WR's & TE's on team . . quality running backs, now all Illini need on offense is a OL that performs? will they??
Moderator: Yo,
We'll see. It will be interesting to see the development of the offense in the spring. Then, there will be a handful of players joining the team at Camp Rantoul.
Steve, Decatur, Il: I have never liked the spread offense, even though we beat a #1 team with it a few years ago. Show me a good running quarterback and I'll show you a good running back. We need a gunslinger at the helm and I think we've got at least 2. Who do you think is our best drop-back passer?
Moderator: Steve,
I think Jacob Charest is the best drop-back quarterback. But I don't think that guarantees him the starting job. The coaches will adapt the offense to the skills of the guy who gives them the best chance to win.
steve, champaign co, il: A break in the action ... if ron zook wrote a book covering his time at Illinois, what's the title?
Moderator: Steve,
Wow, no way to answer that without getting in trouble. For example, we could go with "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" or "Gone With the Wind," but I don't want to be mean.
So, I'm going to let you come up with the title.
John, Findlay, illinois: Any word on Trevaughn Faircloth?
Moderator: John,
I don't think he's signed yet. I will keep you posted.
ron, champaign, il: I agree with Jim-St. Louis. Regarding the Recruiting Coordinator title, I would presume that is a highly proficient admin person. Each coach has his sphere of influence so not so sure a coordinator is more than a detail-oriented guy, not a recruiter himself. That said, he is extremely important in managing the info that will set the course for our program.
Moderator: Ron,
I think Reggie Mitchell was very good at the recruiting coordinator job, which is part of the reason Kansas wanted to hire him.
Ron Zook is ultimately the recruiting coordinator. The staff has internal help to make sure all the coaches get to the right places. But you do need somebody good with details to keep it running smoothly.
Illiniinthewoods, Portland, Oregon: I went online to grade Coach Zook's recruiting class, but couldn't participate. I want to give the class an "incomplete," pending outcome of the final exam.
Moderator: Illiniinthewoods,
Daniel Simpson Day has no grade-point average. All courses are incomplete.
Rich, Carpinteria, CA: Thanks for the chat. Very enjoyable.
Of the underclassmen on last year's team who redshirted or played sparingly,
who might have an impact this year?
Moderator: Rich,
I'd start with receiver Steve Hull, defensive linemen Michael Buchanan and Akeem Spence and defensive back Joelil Thrash. All will be asked to contribute in 2010, some in a big way.
Ricardo, Champaign, IL: Zook has always been coined as a GREAT RECRUITER, not a great coach (i.e., teacher)... Is that idea still defensible after this recruiting class?
Moderator: Ricardo,
I talked to three recruiting experts and they all continue to praise Zook for his work as a recruiter. Coming off 5-7 and 3-9 seasons and with the future of the staff in question, you can't recruit like you can when you go to the Rose Bowl. Logically, rival schools are using the lack of recent success against Illinois. And that hurt the class.
Carl the cabbie, Sandusky, Ohio: Bob
Heard the radio show on the ESPN bus. Did you get to drive it.
Moderator: Carl,
I don't think State Farm has that much insurance. I would like to take it for a spin in a parking lot or on a race track. But probably not on the C-U streets. It would not be good.
Bill, westville, ill: Bob just because signing date has come and will go away, it doesn't mean a candidate or two might not still be out there. Many programs over promise on scholorships and then get in a bind when they can't deliver.
Moderator: Bill,
Great point. I don't know if that has happened with the current Illinois class. I'm going to count the scholarship players at Illinois and see how close the school is to 85.
Brian Beherns, Mahomet, IL: do our quarterbacks we have fit with a pro style offense since they were recruited for a spread offense?
Moderator: Brian,
I think it's easier to take spread quarterbacks and get them to drop back than it is to go the other way. Plus, the staff is willing to work with the guys to make the offense fit their talents.
Dan, Urbana, IL: Bob,
to Bill's point... is there anyone out there that you think we have a chance of signing?
Moderator: Dan,
I don't think so. I think Illinois is pretty close to the 85.
Tom, Tolono, IL: Bob, Great work and comments. I hate to disagree with the expert Randy Taylor, but I watched Heitz play against Tuscola. He couldn't block their smaller DEs, and he couldn't get to their faster LBs. I would think a Big Ten recruit would have dominated the blocking vs. the little guys from Tuscola, but that was not the case. I was concerned about the Illini recruiting class after seeing that game, and I am more concerned now after that comment. I am almost positive that the Big Ten has bigger D linemen and faster LBs than Tuscola, so just what magic bullet do they plan on using to get Heitz to play at that level? Are they basing potential strictly on size? (he does have that)
Moderator: Tom,
I think he was talking about his frame and his feet. We'll have to see what happens after he gets here and works with Joe Gilbert and Lou Hernandez.
Tony, Champaign, IL: what recruiting "experts" do you usually talk to? i know you talk to lemming, anyone else?
Moderator: Tom,
I've talked to Tom Luginbill, Jeremy Crabtree, Randy Taylor and different analysts from Scout.com.
Adam, Urbana, IL: do you get the sense that this is considered to be a good staff by people around the country?
have been impressed of what they have been able to do in a month together ... if we can have a good year, think next years class could be very good again
Moderator: Adam,
I do get the sense the coaches have good reputations. And I think some were surprised Illinois was able to hire the quality guys it hired.
Moderator: Keep those questions coming. I'm going over to see Ron Zook. I've got radio and television stuff later in the day, but will get back to the chat ASAP.
Don't forget about Paul Klee's basketball chat at 4 p.m.
Moderator: Keep voting in our Daily Poll. We have 516 votes and the class is ranked between a C and a D.
Moderator: I'm back from Coach Zook's press conference. I'll answer questions for about 30 minutes, then I have to go to WDWS for an hour.
Luke , Olney, Illinois: Hey Bob, at first i was down on our recruits this year but after watching the films on fightingillini.com i feel pretty good about them. Darius Millines def got my attention, he reminds me of a raw Jarred Fayson, Trulon plays like Rejus but on the Defensive side, and the more i watch Whitmer the more he reminds me of Brees. I am also excited about Denmark he is big and very athletic, but I am still holding out hope that we get Kody Williams what are our chances on him? He could be a nice compliment to Millines, Lankford and Harris. What do you think?
Moderator: Luke,
It sounds like the class is done. But Ron Zook did mention the idea of another player or two coming aboard. I don't know for sure if Kody is one of the possibilities.
o, bannockburn, il: other than cooper & foose, where their any recruits who were suppose to commit, but changed their mind.
Moderator: O,
I don't think so. I think the staff thought the class would be 20-22, which is about as far as they could go.
Jack Baietto, Normal, IL: (1) With the signing of Lankford, Harris and Milines at WR, the Parade mag #1 2009 WR, Terry Hawthorne, may be stuck on defense. Terry was torched by Cincy and Fresno, so I think he should get a shot at WR. Do you think he will?(2) I heard a Rivals rep on Steve Kelly's show say he likes Osie better than Whitmer and thinks he'll start by his soph season. Is he potentially that good?
Moderator: Jack,
I think Terry Hawthorne stays on defense, but will be given a look as a two-way player. That seems to be the way Ron Zook is thinking about it.
The News-Gazette has always thought highly of Miles, a two-time All-Stater. I watched him on film today and he looked very good. But so does Chandler. I think it will work itself out. They need to be together in a training camp to see who is better.
Marcus, Monument, Colorado: Bob,
What were your thoughts about the news conf?
Moderator: Marcus,
It seemed like most of the rest of the signing day press conferences with Ron Zook. He likes the players he recruits, just like you or I would like the players we recruit.
If you heard the press conference, you probably couldn't tell, but there was background noise from the teleconference speakers. I know that was bothering Coach Zook and the reporter in the front row from The News-Gazette (me).
There was no print representation beyond myself and the Daily Illini. Everybody else is covering the Illinois-Iowa basketball game. It was kind of lonely.
Daniel, Urbana, IL: what tv stuff you got?
Moderator: Daniel,
I'm going to be on with Jon Nilles live at 6:15 or so on WAND. Hope you get a chance to watch. And I'll also be doing the Inside Illini Sports show on Sunday morning.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: I believe that the fans are grading this class too hard, as I believe that this class will turn out better than the initial grades given by the fans. Given the poor records and significant change of staff, I see this class as exceeding reasonable expectations.
So, let the real grades come out in 2-3 years :)
Could you do an article on previous recruiting classes and the initial grades given on signing day and perhaps assign an updated grade on those previous classes? It would be good to do a side-by-side comparison on annual basis + a poll among fans to update grades accordingly.
Moderator: Charley,
That's a very good idea. I'll do that in one of my upcoming Sunday football columns.
Ralph , Chicago, IL : I think the WR Corps will be alot better then people think. Eddie has some experience and Fayson can really have a break out year. AJ and Sykes along with two or more players can really provide some good targets that can do different things with the ball. I also would like to say that although we don't have the recruiting class that everyone wants, just remember Zook brought in some pretty good recruits prior to this one so we should really be looking for them to step up this year and play. It's not a bad thing if none of these Freshmen play. That means that prior classes are proving their worth and you get these freshmen for a extra year. That helps over the long haul.
Moderator: Ralph,
Thanks for the comments. I think the receivers will be helped by Paul Petrino's coaching.
Cory , Carbondale , Il: as a native of mahomet, but a student at SIU, i am looking very forward to seeing the salukis play illinois at memorial stadium. from what i hear siu fans will travel well to this game. do you believe SIU has any chance to hang in with illinois?
Moderator: Cory,
History tells me yes. SIU led Illinois 21-7 in 1990 before Howard Griffith went nuts. And Illinois beat Southern Illinois 28-25 in 1985.
I think of all the state schools, Southern Illinois is the one that can give Illinois the best game.
I'd like to see them play basketball too.
Moderator: Hey, I've got a couple of tickets for Saturday's Illinois-Michigan State game. Just email me at asmussen@news-gazette.com. I'll have Jim Rossow pick a winner.
Dr. Phil, Orland Park, IL: Bob, back from seeing Denzel's movie. do you like him?
Seriously, you mentioned that Ron Zook had a "tough time from what I understand." What does that mean? I think us Illini fans in the stands had a more difficult time, especially traveling down to St. Louis and West LaFayette in watching those games.
Also, you always mentioned that Zook was involved with all sectors of the team. Will he definitely be more attuned to letting the coaches coach?
Finally, Juice was still one of the best Illini players of all-time. I am so sorry that Zook did not take a page from the Jim Tressel Rose Bowl playbook, passes downfield, not horizontal, or Pryor take off running, ala, 2007 OSU game. Fans should stop blaming Juice, 21-22 years old, and look at the coaches and the playcalls.
Moderator: Dr. Phil,
I understand that during the season he was getting very little sleep. I mean almost none.
I think Zook will step back some and let his coaches do what they do. That doesn't mean he won't be involved, just not as much.
Luke , Olney, Illinois: If we do decide to run a "wildcat" style offense next year who do yo think will run it? It seems like we have a lot of potentials, ive seen Justin Green on here, im sure that LeShoure could with green being the motion man, Millines seems comfortable running it from what ive seen in his highlights, my personal choice is Jarred Fayson...he ran it a lot in high school at QB and seems to have the speed and athletic ability to run it, plus with Benn gone we need to get him the ball any way possible. What is you take?
Moderator: Luke,
You named several good options. And, obviously, Eddie McGee could run it too. I think it will be an important part of the Illinois offense.
Scott , Peoria, IL: I am a Saluki fan 1st, as I went to college there, and an Illini fan second, grew up watching.
I am really looking forward to the game this coming season! DAWGS had a pretty good recruiting class as well, although it isn't covered like it is here.
Basketball = DAWGS 1, Illini 2
Football = FCS DAWGS, FBS Illini, when they play each other...DAWGS
So, I am only hoping for one loss next year for the Illini, to the DAWGS, and then a NT for both! Is that to much to ask.....lol! Oh yeah....I a CUBS fan to.....somebody, please win a title!
Thanks for the great coverage and chat!
Moderator: Scott,
I believe Southern Illinois has some rebuilding to do in football. But I'm sure it will be back in the playoffs again.
I do think it can be a close game.
Ben, Champaign, IL: Bob,
has anything really surprised you today? With Illinois? Nationally?
Moderator: Ben,
I'm a little surprised that Florida was able to hold keep it together. Obviously, Urban Meyer's two-week retirement didn't hurt the Gators.
I thought Dan Foose was coming to Illinois after talking to his coach. It sounds like that surprised many people, including the Illinois staff. Credit Florida State for continuing to pursue the kid.
Charley, Bellingham, WA: In wrapping up, what are your thoughts of all your fans chatting with you? Aren't we the best fans??? ;)
Moderator: Charley,
No question about that. I've been overwhelmed by the amount of questions. I think we're going to break the Internet. Thanks to you and everyone else for all of the questions.
I'll try to answer a few more when I get back from radio/TV duties.
Moderator: I'm back for the final few questions. Thanks again to everybody for participating.
Luke , Olney, Illinois: I noticed that we didnt get anything in the way of Interior D line what is the word on Josh Brent and his academics is he going to be able to play next fall?
Moderator: Luke,
I think the Illinois coaches are hopeful Josh will be back. But missing spring ball with the new defense is not a good thing.
Jake Howe is going to play defensive tackle.
Ken, Champaign, IL: Bob,
did they address there needs at FB and TE with this class?
Moderator: Ken,
I think they did. Jay Prosch hasn't actually played fullback, but he's got the body for it. And there are a pair of potential tight ends in the group.
Ken, Urbana, IL: How do the coaches deal with the last minute choices? It seems like Zook always seams to close well and get a few surprises including this year.
But how do they deal with the last minute changes? Did they have a feeling or idea that Foose and or Cooper wouldnt be coming?
Moderator: Ken,
I don't think Cooper was a surprise. I think in recent days, the Illinois coaches started to realize he probably wasn't coming.
But Dan Foose was a surprise. I think Ron Zook fought for him as long as he could. It just didn't happen.
Ron Nelson, Normal, IL: In reviewing the 4/5 star recruits for Zook in the past, it's fair to say his staff hasn't developed the talent as expected. Here were the best ones:
2006- Juice, Duvalt, Cumberland; 2007- Benn, Brent, M.Wilson; 2008- Luiget, Hardemann; 2009- Hawthorne, Buchanan.
So, I'm not that disappointed we only have two 4-stars in 2010.
Bob, why is Boise St and Iowa doing so well at developing their 3-star talent? Are they putting the players in the correct positions? Are they simplifying the system? Will Zook's new approach simplify the offense a bit? Thanks!
Moderator: Ron,
Boise State and Iowa look for guys who fit their system. Period. They don't worry about stars or where they rank nationally. And I think both schools get a bunch of kids who are underrated.
Boise State has a system that works well for its situation. But it hasn't worked at Colorado with Dan Hawkins as coach. And I think if Illinois took the same recruits as Boise State each year, it might not work either.
I think the offense will be a change, which isn't easy. But I think the players will like how it works and how they are going to be involved.
Mitch, Barry, IL: Bob, Did the Illini fill there needs with this recruiting class?
Moderator: Mitch,
I think they addressed some of the areas of concern: linebacker, safety, receiver, tight end, fullback. But I think they would have liked another defensive tackle or two. Those are difficult guys to find. There will be a defensive emphasis with the next class.
Moderator: Thanks again to everyone for all of the great questions. I'll be back for the regular chat next Tuesday.