Illinois football chat: 1 p.m. Tuesday

Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 1:00pm

Ask beat writer Bob Asmussen about the Illinois football team

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 12:53 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

We have oodles of questions and I've only got until about 2 or so, so I'm going to get the party started a few minutes early. Hope that works for everybody.

Thanks again to everyone who participated/read the chats from Camp Rantoul. We're going to keep doing that in future years.

Also, I'd love your opinions on the best time for gameday chats. It can't be immediately after the game because of interviews, but an hour or so after would be fine. Let me know what you think by email: asmussen@news-gazette.com.

BW from Tyngsboro, MA — 12:53 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob: Jack Ramsey didn't really get an award Sunday. What changed your mind?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 12:54 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

BW,

Jack had a very good camp and deserved an award, but I ran out. I probably could have given up one of the rookie awards and created something for Jack. He's still got more time to win one of the coveted Bobbys.

ILLINIDMD from Edwardsville, IL — 12:54 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

is there an objective view that our defense could be better than recent history?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 12:56 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

ILLINIDMD,

I think the fact that Martez Wilson is back, Terry Hawthorne and Tavon Wilson are a year older and Vic Koenning is running it should create a chance for improvement.
There are obvious questions across the board.
What I think the defense will be is more disruptive. More sacks and turnovers. Maybe not fewer points and yards.

Scott from Chicago, Illinois — 12:56 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Leshoure looks like he has separated himself from the others. Again. He did last year too.

Why the reluctance to stop this "committee" nonsense? If you have Citation in the stable, you run him.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 12:58 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Scott,

There are a couple of parts to the answer. First, coaches are reluctant to say they've got a "go-to back" because what if that player gets hurt? Also, you want to tell the other players that it's by-committee to keep their competitiveness going. If they think the deal is done, human nature is to cut the effort.
Second (or is that third), Jason Ford has been running very, very well. So, to me, it's a two-back deal with Justin Green capable of breaking off a long gain or two.

Charley from Bellingham, WA — 12:58 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

What kind of first play would you draw up for Nathan S. to execute against Missouri?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:00 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Charley,

That one is easy: Roll him to his right and find a wide-open receiver about 12 yards down the field. In stride. That's a play Illinois has to make work against the Tigers. And it's a play that can cause Missouri trouble all day if executed properly.

Allen from Litchfield, IL — 01:00 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob, what's your guess on the status of the Missouri linebacker, in the Illini game, who was arrested of drunk driving?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:02 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Allen,

The school has said it will handle Will Ebner's case internally. That's going to be the response from most schools. The circumstances don't look good and given the sensitivity to DUI charges across college campuses, I could see him being benched for a game or two.
The question is who makes the decision? The football coach will have one idea and the school president will have another.

Jerry from San Antonio, Texas — 01:03 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob: How would someone, outside the CU area, purchase a media guide and/or a program for first home game, SIU?

Sports Information Office, Bookstore...can the Media Guide be seen on-line? Thanks

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:04 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Jerry,

I would start with the sports information office. That number is 217-333-1391.

I know they have a limited number of media guides and I'm not sure if they are for sale.

If you have any trouble, email me and I will make sure you get a program from the game: asmussen@news-gazette.com

Robert from Chicago, IL — 01:05 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Hey Bob,

What freshman LB & safety is most likely to have an impact at his position this year.. is it true that Zook wants to limit "gameplanning" for Missourri until next week?? With new coordonators I would assume two weeks would be the norm..

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:08 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Robert,

I think Jonathan Brown has a chance to play early at linebacker. Houston Bates is also in the mix.
At safety, I think Earnest Thomas is going to get a chance. And Fritz Rock seemed to be getting more quality time during the final days of Camp Rantoul.

Though we're not at practice this week, I'm pretty sure they are working on Missouri. There is no way for me to know that, but I can't believe they wouldn't take the extra time. Sometimes, Ron Zook talks in riddles to throw the opponent off. I'm guessing that's the case here.

Jim from Rockford, IL — 01:08 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Any sense of where Petrino and Koenning will be coaching from come gameday? Do they prefer to be "sideline" coaches or "box" coaches?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:09 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Jim,

Petrino is definitely in the press box and I think Jeff Brohm will be on the field.

I'm not sure about the defense, but I have a feeling that Coach Koenning will be on the field. That seems to be his nature. He wants to know how his guys are feeling. I will ask today.

Shawshank Ed from Orange Krush/Chief, Illinois — 01:10 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Hello Bob: Three questions sir. 1. Thumbs up or down for Obama's first 2 years? 2. Pretending you are not married or dating steady, who would be your dream date? 3. Who is the smartest sportswriter at the the best paper in the Midwest, the News Gazette?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:13 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Shawshank Ed,

1. Thumbs up. Dude inherited a mess and is trying. Plus, he loves sports.
2. My wife, who I love very, very much, won't likely see this. So, I'll say Julie Bowen from "Modern Family." Or Betty White.
3. C'mon, if I don't answer "me" there is something seriously wrong. (Plus, that's the correct answer). And thanks for the kind words about the paper.

Dave C. from Champaign, IL> — 01:14 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob,
You say the Big Ten is very close to announcing what divisions the schools will be placed in. Who exactly is making that decision and do you thing they are weighing some factors more heavily than other people might. ie. tradional rivalries, geography, competative balance?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:15 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Dave C.,

The people who will be voting are the athletic directors. There will be major input from Jim Delany and help from the Big Ten staff. But the call falls on the ADs. To me, balance and rivalries are first and second on the list, with geography third. The teams, for the most part, are flying to games. What's an extra hour?

Steve from Champaign Co, IL — 01:16 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob, I don't think the giant sized penalty bug has left the team. How could it - last year Illinois lead the B10 receiving 78 penalties for 734 yards vs. opponents 55 for 475 yards and that was in trend from recent years. Plus you never provided analysis or insight as you said you would so we would know the top causes. Did the culprits all graduate? Can Koenning's amped discipline quickly turn this monster around - don't think so. Where are we?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:19 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Steve,

Sorry about the oversight. It's complicated. You would say talent is the start of it, but it goes beyond that. I think lack of confidence leads to penalties. I think some of the responsibility falls to the coaches. And, with the celebration and late hit penalties, you have to blame the players.
I think Vic Koenning and Paul Petrino have established a need for discipline. They pounded it into the players during Camp Rantoul and it will continue throughout the season. Will it mean fewer penalties? It should. But there is also a redshirt freshman at quarterback and some young guys on both sides of the line.
Ron Turner's teams, if I remember correctly, were often among the least penalized teams in the Big Ten. I think I'd want to be somewhere in the middle. Because you want your guys going up to the line without going over it.

Curt from Orlando, FL — 01:19 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob,

Zook refers to AD Guenther as "Coach Guenther". Can you tell us where Guenther coached and what his accomplishments were?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:22 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Curt,

Ron Guenther was the offensive line coach at Boston College in the early 1970s and later coached at North Central College. At North Central, where he was associate head coach, his teams were 23-12-2, according to his bio. He also was a high school coach.

BigToe from Pana, Illinois — 01:22 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob - Ever since Coach Koenning arrived to the University of Illinois I could not put my finger on his background. Of course I knew he came to the U of I from Kansas State (etc) but he seemed familiar. I could not resist doing a search on him and discovered he played for the USFL's Oklahoma Outlaws! Now it all came back to me.

Does Coach Koenning ever wax nostalgic about his USFL days? or being teammates of Doug Williams?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:23 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

BigToe,

Great research. I haven't asked him about the USFL, but I will in the future. I thought the league was interesting and made a stupid decision when it sued the NFL. A lot of great players were in the USFL. I'm sure he has some fun stories.

Tim from Chicago, IL — 01:23 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

"Firing coaches is a costly mess that all schools try to avoid." - Bob Asmussen

Yes but repeated losing seasons are also a costly mess that all schools try to avoid. When do the season ticket sales numbers get released?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:26 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Tim,

Like Charles Barkley, I misquoted myself. Just kidding.

You are right that losing seasons are a costly mess. What I should have written was that firing coaches is a last resort, but sometimes necessary to clean up a costly mess.

Nothing yet on the season tickets. The numbers probably won't be available until the week of the home opener.

Vernon from St. Paul, Minnesota — 01:26 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Good day Bob, 2 questions for you today. 1. How has the offensive line performed so far seeing that their stabilty is extremely vital to any success we have this year, 2. Haven't heard much about WR Jared Fayson, how is he going to be used in the offensive scheme?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:28 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Vernon,

The offensive line looked pretty good throughout Camp Rantoul. There are still some questions, like the guard opposite Randall Hunt. And depth is a major issue.

Jarred Fayson had a quiet but effective camp. I think he will have a good season. Not 90 catches, but maybe in the 40s or 50s. He is considered an important part of the rotation.

MB in Hoosierland from Batesville, IN — 01:28 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

You've probably covered this before, but what is Juice planning for his future?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:29 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

MB,

He was at practice the first week, but didn't want to be interviewed. He is awaiting an opportunity to play pro football, maybe in the CFL. Hopefully, we will find out something soon.

Jack from Plano, Texas — 01:29 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Why can't the Illini football team recognize that the biggest obstacle to their success is their schedule maker?

If you can accept the fact that the program's talent is equivalent to what would be termed as "special needs", then you could schedule accordingly (with the understanding that the following will always occur unless dumb luck befalls the program in a given year):

Annual automatic losses to the "honors" programs:

1. Penn State
2. Ohio State
3. (and now) Nebraska

Probable losses to "honor roll" programs:

4. Iowa
5. Wisconsin
6. Michigan State

Potential toss ups but more than likely losses with "normal" programs:

7. Northwestern
8. Purdue
9. Michigan

Potential wins with "brethern of like-ilk"

10. Minnesota
11. Indiana

Breaking down the schedule this way every year shows Illinois with 2 good chances for 2 Big Ten wins. The key then lies in the non-conference schedule where there has to be 4 automatic wins in order for bowl eligibility. Surely, someone in the scheduling department can come up with 4 beatable schools from across the nation every year. How about Milliken, Illinois Wesleyan, IUPUI, Edinborough (Yes, Lou Tepper's Fightin' Scots) just to name a few.

This would give the Fighting Illini a "fighting" chance at 6 wins every year with the hope of possibly beating one or two of the better Big Ten teams as well, for potetnially a 7-5 or 8-4 season. With more post season practices and a nationally televised bowl game every year who knows, after 5 or 10 years the team might work its way up talent-wise to an "honor roll" status.

Northwestern did it this way. Why can't Illinois just follow suit?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:32 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Jack,

There seems to be a reluctance to schedule down at Illinois. Is that wrong? At this point, probably.

The key to any sustained success for the Illinois program is getting to repeated bowls. That won't be as likely when the nonconference schedule is top heavy, like it was in 2009.

Of course, the 2011 schedule should be good for Illinois, with all of the games at home. But that hasn't been the case often enough.

You make a lot of good points.

Remember, you can only count one non-Division I-A win toward a bowl. That cost Kansas State a postseason berth in 2009.

Al from Milwaukee, WI — 01:32 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob,
Sorry if this question has already been asked, but have you heard anything new on Aikens. Watching him in Rantoul I noticed he was running quite a bit with the 1's. How big of loss is this if he does not return. I am worried about the secondary. After the first scrimmage at RTHS with all the big plays I began wondering maybe bend, but don't break might still be better than break break break...thoughts?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:34 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Al,

It's in a holding pattern, though my guess is that he won't likely return to the team. Ron Zook is hoping to get him back, but it won't be easy. More likely, Walt transfers to another school and tries to play this season.
I think you are right that the secondary is a concern. And losing a player like Aikens, if that's the case, doesn't help any. He played in 2009 and would have been a contributor in 2010.

Mike from wHEATON, il — 01:34 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob, how do the special teams look. Historically, we have had poor special teams play particularly the return teams. Do you see increased emphasis on special teams work and are they improving?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:36 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Mike,

I took the time to watch the special teams, specifically the returners, in the final week and they did look good. Terry Hawthorne has good returning skills. So does Jack Ramsey.
I think the return numbers will go up. Maybe in a big way. There are plenty of starters on the special teams.

Stan from Lynwood, Illinois — 01:36 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

I noticed alot of times last year the Illini seemed to have that defeatest attitude when they got behind, Oh no here we go again ! Do you feel they have a more positive attitude and will respond accordingly?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:38 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Stan,

I think getting rid of the negativity has been a big part of the preparation. You won't hear the coaches ripping into the players too much publicly. But you are right, it doesn't take a lot to get the bad vibe going again. The coaches and the team leaders need to stop it. Of course, winning takes care of everything.

Matt from Troy, IL — 01:38 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Hi Bob,
My biggest concern on defense heading into this year is the lack of size we seem to have at DT. My worry is that if a team gets a lead on us and starts to pound it at us, our d-line is going to have a tough time holding up. Anything that I'm missing that can help squash that fear?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:39 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Matt,

You've made a good point. The question is how durable Corey Liuget is and how quickly the young guys like Akeem Spence are able to make an impact. I think you will get your answer when Ohio State comes to town.

Ken from Urbana, IL — 01:40 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

What efforts are being made to recruit in PA, especially in the greater Pittsburgh PA region? Lots of great high school in that region that may want to play for the Illini?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:41 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Ken,

Pennsylvania has been an area Illinois recruited in the past. I'm not sure how much the new staff will go there. It's all about connections. These guys seem to have different places available to them. In the Pittsburgh area, Illinois isn't going to get many or any guys that Penn State or Pitt wants.

Dennis from McHenry, Illinois — 01:41 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Have we overestimated our recruiting ability in Chicago and its suburbs. Seems like Notre Dame,Iowa, Northwestern, and even Wisconsin get higher rated players. Has Illinois done something to turn these players off? Our we going South and into Ohio more? Is this a good thing longterm? Seems like our biggest Alumni base would be in Chicago and its suburbs. Also heard a coach once say players should commit to the school not the coach. What do you think abou this?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:43 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Dennis,

I think if you are Illinois football, you have to start with Chicago area and work out from there. Sure, there are a lot of schools that hit the city and it is overrecruited. But it is in the state. It has to be priority one. Then, you draw a circle from C-U that hits Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, etc. That's next. And you look to places you've had success in the past, like Florida.

Dave C. from Champaign, IL> — 01:43 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob,
It looks like Petrino is going to have Scheelhaase passing some off the roll-out. That sometimes increase the risk of interceptions since its harder to get a lot on the ball without your feet set. How's Nathan doing with that during preseason? I saw Miami Thomas pick of one of these passes Sat.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 01:44 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Dave C.,

Nathan seems effective on rollouts. He'll get better at it as time goes on. Nathan was very unhappy about the turnovers during Saturday's scrimmage. He's the kind of kid who will work at until it isn't a problem anymore.

Jake from Effinjham, Illinois — 01:45 PM on Tue, 08/24/2010

Bob,

As always I really enjoy the chats, you do a great job.
There has been a lot of positive rhetoric come out of Camp Rantoul but do you think it is all talk or can we be somewhat optomistic about the upcoming season? In seeing the information that has come from the scrimmages it sounds like it could be a lot of the same from last year. There appeared to be some easy scores against the No. 1 defense and that can only spell disaster in my book. Please give me SOME hope. Thanks. Jake