Illinois Signing Class chat: 9 a.m. Wednesday

Wednesday, February 4, 2009 - 9:00am

Ask Illinois football beat writer Bob Asmussen about Ron Zook's latest signees.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:03 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

We couldn't wait to get started, so we are starting the chat now.
Thanks for your questions.

Jonathon from Alsip, IL — 07:03 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Rivals.com is reporting that Justin Green is going to Illinois. Please tell me this is true.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:06 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Jonathan,

I talked to Justin Green last night. The fact that he picked up his phone when he saw a call from Illinois tells me that he is probably on his way.
We won't know officially until his 10 a.m. announcement. But all signs are pointing to Illinois.
It's a huge addition to the Illinois class. From talking to folks in Kentucky, Justin wants to play running back and wasn't getting a good feeling about that idea from Ohio State. The Illinois coaches want him on their team. If he wants to play running back, they will certainly let him give it a go.
He is one of the fastest players in the country. His dad is a coach. His brother played at Ohio State.

Scott from Urbana, IL — 07:07 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Which recruit do you think has the most potential to be a star other than Hawthorne?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:10 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Scott,
If Justin Green does sign with Illinois, as expected, you'd have to put him right with Hawthorne at the top of the class.

Tony from Urbana, IL — 07:10 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Bob,

where does the class rank nationally? And how does it compare with the other classes Zook has brought in?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:14 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Tony,
The class is anywhere from the high 20s to the high 30s, depending on which recruiting service you listen to. The late addition of Justin Green bumps the Illini a few notches, but if Kraig Appleton doesn't sign, that will knock the class down a bit.
The class is going to be rated just below the last three Zook classes, but remember that there are fewer guys on this list. And that is a part of the recruiting service rankings that gets overlooked. It's a volume business, so a 25-player class gets ranked higher than a 20-player class.

Kyle from Urbana, IL — 07:15 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

any news on Appleton? I know this is the million dollar question lately.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:16 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Kyle,

What I've been hearing is that Kraig will sign with Wisconsin. We won't know if it's true until later this morning. East St. Louis has a signing day program at the school.
As complicated as his recruitment has become, I won't believe anything until I see the paper being signed.

Alan from Champaign, IL — 07:16 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

any big surprises today?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:19 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Alan,

Justin Green's decision would have to be classified as a surprise. Not to the Illinois coaches. But to the rest of the recruiting world.
He is a Top 100 kid who was headed to a national power. Then, within the last couple of days, he has apparently changed his mind.

Bob from Champaign, IL — 07:19 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Bob,

i know you said that he Green might be given a shot at RB. But with the depth there, might he also consider playing DB?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:21 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Bob,

Defensive back will always be an option for Justin. But I think the coaches have promised to give him a legitimate look at running back. Given his speed and talent, he looks like a guy who could be a superstar tailback. The only question is his size, but you have to figure he'll bulk up after arriving on campus.
With his dad being a longtime high school coach, Justin didn't rush into his college decision. It's a positive sign for Illinois that Justin endorsed the school by signing.

Tom from Urbana, IL — 07:21 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

How big would it be if we were able to sign Green and Buchanan like rumored to be?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:25 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Tom,
From a PR standpoint and a class ranking standpoint, it would be very big.
But the reality of recruiting is that we won't know how it plays out until at least the 2009 season. If Justin Green comes in and helps Illinois win a couple of games, you'd have to look back at the late switch as a turning point.
Michael Buchanan, a News-Gazette All-Stater, can be a difference maker in college. Maybe very early in his career.

Larry from Crown Point , IN — 07:29 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Rumor has it Demond Dennis running back from Georgia is leaning toward Illinois any truth to this? Also anything on Stokes?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:30 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Larry,

From what I've heard, Dennis is going a different direction. But you never say never on signing day.
Given that Justin Green is likely on the way and that Bud Golden has already signed, it's hard to imagine another top running back joining the class. But you never know. He has a morning press conference and we will keep you posted.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:37 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Michael Buchanan's school ceremony is scheduled for 1 p.m. today. He is going to sign with Illinois.

Norm from St Joseph, MI — 07:56 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Who will sign with Illinois today that isn't on the commitment list yet? Not counting Green. Any surprises?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 07:58 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Norm,

Are you counting Michael Buchanan on the commitment list? If you are, then I don't think there will be anybody new.
But that could change. There are offers out there and I would hate to guess what an 18-year-old is going to do.
If there are any surprises, we will let you know about them immediately.
The late additions of Green and Buchanan are significant. I'm not surprised about Buchanan given that he was down to two schools. But Green has to be considered an upset, especially when you factor in his brother as a former Buckeye.

Jeremy from Glenview, IL — 08:02 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

What do you think is the main reason Buchanan chose the Illini? A few days ago it was looking like Purdue. Do you think the loss of Carradine and Drummond played a role?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 08:04 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Jeremy,

I think Drummond and Carradine not being in the class had to have some impact. But I'm guessing the Illinois coaches were telling him all along that it was possible those two wouldn't sign.
Of the two situations, Illinois looks better on paper. Purdue is coming off of a bad season and has a new coach. The quarterback is going to be new and the chances of winning at a high level, at least in the next year or two, look bleak.
Illinois is coming off of a disappointing season, but has a bunch of top players back, including a four-year starting quarterback. The prospects for success look much better at Illinois. That had to go into his decision.
Plus, you have to figure the homestate school pull played a role. He'll have classmates from H-F at Illinois.

Nate from Owensboro, KY — 08:06 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

I thought for sure that Stokes was going to Illinois after leaving Tennessee. Is there still a chance he could be coming? Also anything on the Phillips kid?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 08:10 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Nate,

There is always a chance, but it sounds like Stokes is going elsewhere. He is going to announce later this afternoon. He did make a visit to Illinois, which means there is a chance. And it's also possible he's waiting, in part, to see what Kraig Appleton does.
I think Ty Phillips is going to sign with Missouri. He might end up being the best player in his class. But there are academic issues that need to be resolved.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 08:15 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

It's official. Kraig Appleton is going to Wisconsin.
He will make an announcement at his high school in an hour, but the Wisconsin signing day blog reports his letter of intent is in hand.

Kyle from Champaign, IL — 08:15 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Can we all have a collective thank god the appleton saga is over. Time to move on.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 08:18 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Kyle,

I'm looking forward to finding out what really happened. I will give Kraig a call soon and see if he will tell me the entire story.
When he was here for the state title game, he sure sounded like he was on his way to Illinois. Something happened between late November and now to change his mind.
An important reminder: Wisconsin is off the Illinois schedule for the next two years. The teams will next play Nov. 26, 2011 in Champaign.

Steve from Champaign Co, IL — 08:18 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

What is your take that Illinois admissions is staying firm on academics? Some think we should cave in. I think it is going to help us get to the next level in recruiting with more 3-5 star recruits with great grades/scores (more guys like Scheelhasse).

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 08:24 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Steve,

It's a really difficult issue for coaches and schools. Of course, the coaches try to get the best and the brightest. That's the first priority.
But not every player is the same academically. Some maybe haven't had the advantages of others in terms of the quality of the education or the support. And there endless examples of athletes who struggled academically early in their careers who turned it around and became outstanding students. The Illinois coaches don't want to overlook those players.
The key, to me, is communication between the two parties and a willingness to look at each player's case. You will have to trust the coaches and the admissions folks want what is best for the school. And helping the football program is part of what is best for the school.

Kyle from Champaign, IL — 08:41 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

How about that Green to UI! Awesome coup by Zook.

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 08:47 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Kyle,
We just talked to Justin's father, Jelly, who is an assistant coach at Male. We will have a story on HQ shortly and will talk to Justin later this morning.

Carl from Cleveland, OH — 09:00 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Now that we have no Apples, can we get some Stokes?????

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:01 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Carl,

I'm not sure that will happen. But given the recent additions of Buchanan and Green, you never say never.
With Appleton gone, it sure opens up the receiver position for another recruit.

Stashu from Tinley Park, IL — 09:12 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Bob, will the offense change after juice leaves?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:13 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Stashu,

I don't think it will change much. If you look at the quarterbacks beyond Juice: Eddie McGee, Jacob Charest and Nathan Scheelhaase, they are all dual threat quarterbacks. I know people don't think that about Jacob, but he can really run.
Mike Schultz wants to be balanced. And part of that balance can come from a running quarterback. I don't think you will see a classic dropback quarterback at Illinois during the Zook era.

Angela from Geneva, Illinois — 09:13 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Do you think the reporting has been fair about recruits who "rethought" their commitment to Illinois--specifically, recruits who don't qualify due to academic issues. Seems like Chicago area papers love to see recruits pull away from Illinois and go elsewhere (lesser academic schools).

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:15 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Angela,
Chicago papers don't hate Illinois. They just don't cover Illinois. Illinois is very low on the priority list for the Chicago papers, behind all the pro teams and Notre Dame.
Sometimes, you write the information you are given. The Illinois coaches can't talk about recruits until after they've signed, so those stories can't really be balanced.

Jordan from Champaign, IL — 09:15 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Have you heard anything new today regarding Hawthorne's plans?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:17 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Jordan,

Terry's signing day ceremony is going on right now in East St. Louis. I think he is signing with Illinois and I'm guessing the school will hear from him soon.

greg from columbia, tn. — 09:17 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

greg columbia,tn. will negative tactics from notre dame affect this class?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:18 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Greg,

I wouldn't want to point at one school when it comes to negative recruiting. I think it happens at a lot of places. I plan to write a story later in the winter about negative recruiting with some specific examples this year that didn't involve Notre Dame.
I don't think Illinois was hurt by anything done by Notre Dame.

Mike from Champaign, IL — 09:18 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Bob,
A chat all day? You are a beast.
Are the coaches worried that Terry Hawthorne's letter hasn't come in yet?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:19 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Mike,

They aren't worried because the press conference is at 9 and they won't get the letter until after that.

Kyle from Champaign, IL — 09:20 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

You see the Signing Day blog? How is Hardeman working out despite his significant injury?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:21 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Kyle,
That's a great sign for Donsay. That would tell me that he is on the road to recovery and has a good chance to be back on the field. He will be a significant contributor if he is able to make a healthy return.

Steve from Champaign, IL — 09:21 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Do you think we'll bring in any more JUCO guys to help shore up the defense, like Minnesota did last year?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:24 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Steve,

I don't think so. Illinois will use junior colleges to fill specific needs, but won't ever bring in more than a couple of guys.
You only get two years from junior college transfers and if you can't get them in during the spring, it really is a setback. If you can get a high school senior ready to play early, you can get three to four quality years. The way to sustain a successful program is by doing the bulk of your recruiting in high schools and getting a player or two each year from junior colleges. That's the tactic Ron Zook is using.

Mike from Indianapolis, IN — 09:24 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Any chance that Hawthorne follows Appleton right out of Champaign?

Bob Asmussen (moderator) — 09:25 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Mike,

I highly doubt it. We will know soon enough.

Matt from Tuscola, IL — 09:25 AM on Wed, 02/04/2009

Bob, do you see Jud Wienke following his big brother's footsteps and playing college ball at a Big Ten school?

By the way, did your wife pick out that shirt?